Who Won Pac-Bradley? Post fight discussion STOP MAKING NEW THREADS ABOUT THIS FIGHT.

[Vadrigar.]

So I watched the fight a second time in native 720p, 60 fps video. Sound was muted to eliminate HBO bias. Here is my scorecard:

round 1: P(10), B(9)
round 2: P(9), B(10)
round 3: P(9), B(10)
round 4: P(10), B(9)
round 5: P(10), B(9)
round 6: P(9), B(10)
round 7: P(9), B(10)
round 8: P(10), B(9)
round 9: P(10), B(9)
round 10: P(9), B(10)
round 11: P(9), B(10)
round 12: P(9), B(10)

Total: 115-113 Bradley

[BlackHat]

I will just have a couple of comment.

First, DelaHOya-Trinidad and Peterson - Khan were close fights, I don't have problem with the outcome of those fights as they could have gone either way, this is not the case with Pac-Bradley. Bradley didnt even have a dominant round, most of his "won rounds" can even be contested and could have gone either way depending on how you score rounds and which style you prefer. i.e( aggressor-counter) (volume puncher - big puncher).

Secondly I thought Pac's defence that night was good, Bradley was missing and hitting Pac's gloves all night.

[Bermuda]

bradley lost, clear as day. you gotta take the belt from the champ. not only did bradley not do that, he didnt even look good good in the fight. pac won that fight

yup...pacquiao was landing almost all of the telling/significant shots in each round and not to mention had bradley hurt/wobbled during other times as well. also, there where certain parts of the fight where bradley didn't look confident at all...you could just see it on his face that he knew he was losing the fight.

[deanrw]

No, it was effective at keeping Manny from doing what he does. I don't know about "survival." He finished the stronger fighter. And what you just said is what he did--he controlled the range at a distance. He landed his fair shre of blows, please believe it. Not as hard as Manny's but they landed.

He landed here and there, but if you think it was effective, well you are wrong. It negated manny's offense sure, but it also negated his own.

[hugh grant]

No one seems to think Bradley won, not even Bradley himself so if a case was ever for a decision to be overturned its now..........or never.

But for a rematch to happen those judges need to be nowhere near a ringside.

[Russian Crushin]

It holds more than 15,000. On a typical sellout it's like 16,400 ish. Cotto/Mayweather did something like that.

No Cotto-Floyd had like 14,500 i think

[Oh you out son]

First view thought Pac won a close fight. Second view thought Bradley won a close fight. Depends on if you believe flurrying at the end of rounds is enough to outweigh outboxing a guy for the first 2 minutes or so of every round. Not to mention people seem to have this notion that Bradley was ever really stunned or hurt, and I never saw it.

bradley never even landed one significant shot the whole damn fight, god people are ******. pac was smiling and laughing everytime bradley tried to throw. all bradley threw were pathetic arm jabs with no snap. maybe landed a few decent body shots but nothing remotely close to hurting pac or making him take steps back like marquez did in all 3 of their fights.

i don't even want to see bradley fight again to be honest. he was scared of pac and went with the marquez blueprint of backing up and counterpunching but he is not good at it.

when i first watched it i gave bradley the 11th round. when i rewatched it i gave him the 11th and 12th. he should get no more than 2 rounds, 3 is pushing it, and 4 is just ******ed. there is no possible ****ing way he won 4 rounds.

[crold1]

I dont do that 2nd replay thing. After reading the forums and building up specific bias, you're gonna score rounds differently then before

This shows with almost everybody having it a closer fight then when viewing it live. Why is that?

Same reason there have been so many more scores for Hopkins over Calzaghe than there was immediately after that fight. people get mentally intimidated into telling themselves they saw something different than what they saw.

[dan_cov]

damn black people really got it in for manny.. is it becoz you have hardly any champions left lol

Dawson, Floyd, Ward, Broner, Bradley, Gamboa, Bailey, Rigondeux, Tarver etc etc

[IMDAZED]

He landed here and there, but if you think it was effective, well you are wrong. It negated manny's offense sure, but it also negated his own.

I guess. Manny was fairly fatigued in the later rounds so those punches must've been doing something. I wonder why he didn't just walk through him, hmmm. And no, I don't believe I'm wrong. He set the distance and pace, which means he controlled the ring.