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    I keep hearing a lot of Pac fans saying Pacquiao's speed will give Bradley too much problems, but i beg to differ. JMM is nowhere near as fast as Manny is, but he was able to neutralized Manny's speed with his timing[feinting and jabbing]. He had the upper hand in most of the exchanges between rounds. Bradley is going to have to find a way to get off first or disrupt Manny's offense rhythm halfway with short counter punches.

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      Originally posted by Carpe Diem View Post
      I keep hearing a lot of Pac fans saying Pacquiao's speed will give Bradley too much problems, but i beg to differ. JMM is nowhere near as fast as Manny is, but he was able to neutralized Manny's speed with his timing[feinting and jabbing]. He had the upper hand in most of the exchanges between rounds. Bradley is going to have to find a way to get off first or disrupt Manny's offense rhythm halfway with short counter punches.
      Most of Manny's wins when he looks amazing is when a fighter stands right in front of him...You give Manny a lil movement he is not the same guy,Bradley will use movement and try to dictate the action..I'm going to tell you this,if Bradley controls the pace of this fight(which I believe he will)Pac is going to lose...

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        Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View Post
        Most of Manny's wins when he looks amazing is when a fighter stands right in front of him...You give Manny a lil movement he is not the same guy,Bradley will use movement and try to dictate the action..I'm going to tell you this,if Bradley controls the pace of this fight(which I believe he will)Pac is going to lose...
        Doesn't mean the judges will agree with that though. Bradley may win the fight but not on the score cards. He will need a KO to actually get the W on his record, and who actually thinks he will do that?

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          Originally posted by WESS View Post
          Doesn't mean the judges will agree with that though. Bradley may win the fight but not on the score cards. He will need a KO to actually get the W on his record, and who actually thinks he will do that?
          The notion that a small guy moving up with very littlke ko power knocking manny out is far fetched given that manny has takjen shots from much bigger men with more power. I think manny is too good and kos tim. But a close sd or ud by tim does create lucrative opportunities for TR so don't count that scenario out so quickly.

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            Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
            The notion that a small guy moving up with very littlke ko power knocking manny out is far fetched given that manny has takjen shots from much bigger men with more power. I think manny is too good and kos tim. But a close sd or ud by tim does create lucrative opportunities for TR so don't count that scenario out so quickly.

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            I have seen Bradley wobble people bigger than himself plenty of times so he does have power. I think he pulls his punches short so that he can slip with his guard up after he punches......it's part of his defense. The areas where he is deficient in are usually only because he has to sacrifice something small to help something else out in a major way. The preceding described the sacrifice of power to increase his defense after punching.

            This leads me to feel that's the reason why you always hear he is "great at almost everything but not really excellent in any one thing." He does get sloppy but it's because he is too emotional at times. He always calms down and mentally beats his opponent as well as physically. An example would be laughing during exchanges (assuming his defense is sufficient), or shaking his head and smiling when walking to the corner, or not sitting on the stool in between rounds.

            I take nothing away from Pac at all. Here's how I see it: Pac is growing tired of the sport, he has far too many obligations (his daily schedule must be insane), and he about to try and leave Arum anyways. Old Bob isn't dumb and Konze tells him everything that goes on, so you know he isn't just going to set around and wait to get shafted, he makes plans, plots and schemes.

            He knows that Bradley has a style not like any of the last bunch of guys that Pac has fought, plus he is undefeated, younger and a legit champion beating top-tier world competition. Now does that sound like the "right" guy to put in the ring with your top money-making superstar who is almost 35 years old and has been viewed as "on a slight decline" in his last few fights?

            Arum has Bradley under his belt and will win either way but at least with Bradley he can make money off of him for a good couple of years, while Pac is ready to head out the door. Bradley has a gritty personality and a good story, he talks smack but in a good kind of way....he is the most like Mayweather after Mayweather retires..very confident, dedicated, and motivated, African American, slick style, smack talker.

            If Bradley really starts to break Pac down over the long haul and it goes to the cards, I could see Arum signaling the judges to give Tim the nod. If it's a toss up, uber close fight, I can see them giving it to Pac.
            Last edited by mathed; 05-30-2012, 09:44 PM.

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              People can chill with the bradley vs mayweather talk. He pulls off the upset and theres no way bob puts him in there with floyd right away.

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                Originally posted by MoneyMayFan View Post
                People can chill with the bradley vs mayweather talk. He pulls off the upset and theres no way bob puts him in there with floyd right away.
                He's on a short term contract....

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                  Originally posted by WESS View Post
                  Doesn't mean the judges will agree with that though. Bradley may win the fight but not on the score cards. He will need a KO to actually get the W on his record, and who actually thinks he will do that?
                  I really don't think Bradley needs to KO Pac to win,I do how ever believe he needs to clearly beat Pac to win...Bradley is young and fun(surprising to most)and Pac is on his last days as a boxer(you can just tell)..If Bradley clearly wins,he will win this fight..Most people say JMM was robbed,but I believe that was a close fight,that the more aggressive man got the nod in...I had JMM by 2 points,but I could see how someone could give it to Pac..As a matter of fact,the night of that fight it was 50/50 in my house,on who people thought won the fight..

                  If Bradley let's it be that close(JMM)he will lose(but win at the same time,just for hanging with Pacmonster)he has to clearly win..He does that,you looking at the future..I'm not worrying about the judges at the moment...

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                    I missed Pacquia's live media day workout today.

                    Anything special happen? How was Pacquiao looking?

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