Sergio Martinez getting disrespected in the P4P ranks

[Russian Crushin]

Yes he was why wont you go ahead and tweet Dan Rafel and Doug Fischer. And im sure Martinez would KO a Mayweather.

Because i dont have twitter

And Floyd would outbox Martinez pretty easily

[Chups]

haha seriously man...anywhere in boxing discussions, these pinoys act so ****in ****** when it comes to discussin fighters, like if we don't agree with them that theyre fighters aren't elite they go ape****. i haven't been here for long, but i see all these people trying to downtalk martinez so they could justify why donaire was bumped up like crazy in the p4p rankings.

Zarco please tell this man that I'm the exception.

[King Ju-Ju]

sergio isnt gettin any respect. i agree.

[chiguy91]

Does Germans have comprehension problems?

If you read my posts. I had Martinez ahead of Donairre. ANd the point is p4p is totally subjective.

IF people wants Donairre ahead of Martinez then let them be. Its Mythical nothing is official.

You can even Put Javier Castillejo in there if you like to. but dont slam your opinion on everybody's throat.

p4p rankings from big name sites like these are what some (lots) people like to use when arguing about different fighters. and what i think he meant, as well as what i meant in my previous comment in this thread, is most dudes doing trashtalking are dudes who are filipino. obviously, not every donaire fan is pinoy, but the ones who like to argue and have him in their sigs usually are...not hating on pinoys or their fighters (****, my gf is filipino) im just trying to point out that donaire just got fame and is already getting blown up to be some new kind of boxing great.....

[namme]

Any idea how many fighters drink you idiot! If that is a factor then fuck dude....just delete Hattons name from Pacquiaos resume lolz. And if you want to talk about who has Williams beaten aside from Margarito, who has Montiel beaten aside from Hozumi?

Name some of the world champion boxers who went twice into a rehabilitation program because of alcohol!

There is a big difference between addiction and plain drinking!

What? Montiel is an elite fighter, you don't know that? do you know how many times he was into world championship fights?

20 world championship fights!

[Zarco]

Does Germans have comprehension problems?

If you read my posts. I had Martinez ahead of Donairre. ANd the point is p4p is totally subjective.

IF people wants Donairre ahead of Martinez then let them be. Its Mythical nothing is official.

You can even Put Javier Castillejo in there if you like to. but dont slam your opinion on everybody's throat.

Yea I read that but it seems like your trying to seperate Martinez too wide from Donaire with a question like that, at least thats the impression I got from it. I think its pretty safe to assume that out of Mayweather and Pac, Mayweather is the more skilled boxer so does that mean you are going to put your money on Mayweather if the fight ever comes around? And dude this is argueville.com if you havent noticed of course im going to argue against things I see different on its alright to do so.

Zarco please tell this man that I'm the exception.

Oh yea dude definitely you and a few others

[Castor_Troy]

I beg to disagree my buddy. It's about the resume and accomplishments. There's a reason why it took a while for Pacquiao and and all of the other fighters to reach the top ten. They needed to beat top guys and other P4P guys to be included in the list. Calderon is skilled, long before losing to Segura he was not in the Top 10 P4P. But given the condition of having the same size as Hopkins, Floyd, JMM, Pacquiao (who were in the top 10 at that time) Ivan would beat them all. Ivan was included on the list when he started beating the likes of Cazares (top guy resume) and defending his belt many times (accomplishments)

Its subjective so anybody can have their way

it was originally coined for SRR. That if fighters are the same size who would win.

Resume are great aide in determining a figters capability but p4p is totally Opinion based

[Jack Napier]

Martinez should be above Floyd
in fact, inactive Floyd should be dropped

[Russian Crushin]

Its subjective so anybody can have their way

it was originally coined for SRR. That if fighters are the same size who would win.

Resume are great aide in determining a figters capability but p4p is totally Opinion based

Well there just has to be a #1

Every sport has a champion, A top guy an boxing needs to have one too

[Rocky Rode]

That "draw" with Cintron shouldn't have been a draw. The ref incorrectly called a KD by Martinez a headbutt. That one point swing is why the draw happened. No matter what anyone's opinion is, Martinez should've gotten a 10-8 round and won that Cintron fight, if it wasn't for the incompetent ref. He was robbed in that fight.

And Martinez only loss was avenged with a 2nd round KO less than a year later.

Donaire doesn't deserve to be #2 P4P, IMO. People already forget that before Sergio KO'd Williams he was on most people's top 5 P4P list. Sergio KO's him and now people try to act like he's some sort of bum.