Sergio Martinez getting disrespected in the P4P ranks

[Russian Crushin]

Wow so now Nonito Donaire is absolutely flawless future P4P ATG#1. Like I said in my original post I could only imagine if Donaire had completely KOd a boxer who was P4P#3 and towered over him....wow

He wasnt #3 and im sure nonito would destroy an overly aggresive tall guy

[namme]

Martinez has 2 big wins, Pauil and Pavlik

Donaire has 2 big wins, Vic and Montiel. But Sergio is also 2-1-1 in his last 4

Pavlik was not the same Pavlik that fought Jermaine Taylor. He started drinking after that fight.

Williams? Who has he beaten aside from Margarito before? why was he even been at #3 P4P? [Quintana? He lost to Cotto before. Kolle? who is he? Verno Phillips? a 40yr old veteran? Wright? not anymore in his prime. Martinez? He should have won their first fight. Cintron? a quitter.]

[Zarco]

P4P = 'who will win if they are the same size'

its not a ranking of fighters with the best resumes.

Wow so now your even acting like Donaire is Floyd Mayweather and Martinez is Luis Collazo lmao...gtfo. One thing I learned in my years here is that there is absolutely no arguing with you Filipinos I swear, you guys turn into extremists if it has to do with a Filipino achiever.

[RA-Box]

Wow so now Nonito Donaire is absolutely flawless future P4P ATG#1. Like I said in my original post I could only imagine if Donaire had completely KOd a boxer who was P4P#3 and towered over him....wow

I think your original post was spot on. Martinez always gets the short end of the stick. He is definitely 4-0 of his last 4, or at the very least 3-0-1.

Also, the Bunema fight was a masterpiece of boxing skills (albeit against limited comp), he KO'ed Cintron no matter what the scores/judges/records say, and Pavlik (What was it...17lbs heavier on fight night?) had only been beaten by a larger Bernard Hopkins and Martinez still ****ed him up harder.

And to the haters who say that we overrate Martinez, I bet you guys thought Martinez vs PWill 2 was going to be competitive, didn't you?

1. Pacquiao
2. Mayweather (until he gets dropped off for inactivity)
3. Martinez
4. JMM
5. Donaire

[Zarco]

He wasnt #3 and im sure nonito would destroy an overly aggresive tall guy

Yes he was why wont you go ahead and tweet Dan Rafel and Doug Fischer. And im sure Martinez would KO a Mayweather.

[Castor_Troy]

Wow so now your even acting like Donaire is Floyd Mayweather and Martinez is Luis Collazo lmao...gtfo. One thing I learned in my years here is that there is absolutely no arguing with you Filipinos I swear, you guys turn into extremists if it has to do with a Filipino achiever.

Does Germans have comprehension problems?

If you read my posts. I had Martinez ahead of Donairre. ANd the point is p4p is totally subjective.

IF people wants Donairre ahead of Martinez then let them be. Its Mythical nothing is official.

You can even Put Javier Castillejo in there if you like to. but dont slam your opinion on everybody's throat.

[Zarco]

Pavlik was not the same Pavlik that fought Jermaine Taylor. He started drinking after that fight.

Williams? Who has he beaten aside from Margarito before? why was he even been at #3 P4P? [Quintana? He lost to Cotto before. Kolle? who is he? Verno Phillips? a 40yr old veteran? Wright? not anymore in his prime. Martinez? He should have won their first fight. Cintron? a quitter.]

Any idea how many fighters drink you idiot! If that is a factor then fuck dude....just delete Hattons name from Pacquiaos resume lolz. And if you want to talk about who has Williams beaten aside from Margarito, who has Montiel beaten aside from Hozumi?

[chiguy91]

Wow so now your even acting like Donaire is Floyd Mayweather and Martinez is Luis Collazo lmao...gtfo. One thing I learned in my years here is that there is absolutely no arguing with you Filipinos I swear, you guys turn into extremists if it has to do with a Filipino achiever.

haha seriously man...anywhere in boxing discussions, these pinoys act so ****in ****** when it comes to discussin fighters, like if we don't agree with them that theyre fighters aren't elite they go ape****. i haven't been here for long, but i see all these people trying to downtalk martinez so they could justify why donaire was bumped up like crazy in the p4p rankings.

[goblin213]

Sergio Martinez is the most disrespected fighter right now. He gets fcked by the judges, gets fcked by the sanctioning bodies, they take away his belts, and now by the libra por libra rankings. Martinez probably doesn't give a **** anymore.

[Chups]

P4P = 'who will win if they are the same size'

its not a ranking of fighters with the best resumes.

I beg to disagree my buddy. It's about the resume and accomplishments. There's a reason why it took a while for Pacquiao and and all of the other fighters to reach the top ten. They needed to beat top guys and other P4P guys to be included in the list. Calderon is skilled, long before losing to Segura he was not in the Top 10 P4P. But given the condition of having the same size as Hopkins, Floyd, JMM, Pacquiao (who were in the top 10 at that time) Ivan would beat them all. Ivan was included on the list when he started beating the likes of Cazares (top guy resume) and defending his belt many times (accomplishments)