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Admit It People, Manny Pacquiao Has Been Reduced To Fighting Mayweathers Scraps

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    Originally posted by mesher View Post
    Pretty sure Mayweather ducked Margarito and Cotto, and has never fought clottey so.... you sound ******ed

    Floyd also fought Marquez, which was Manny's leftovers and he could only knock him down once even though he outweighed him by 15lbs on fight night.
    You can't call him Manny's leftovers when most educated boxing fans believe Marquez won both their fights. Not to mention it's become apparent that Team Pacquiao want no part of fighting Marquez ever again after the wars he put Manny through in their 2 fights.

    As far as Margarito and Cotto go, see my post on the 2nd page....and you lose major credibility by using Clottey as an example

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      Originally posted by Mr. President View Post
      You can't call him Manny's leftovers when most educated boxing fans believe Marquez won both their fights. Not to mention it's become apparent that Team Pacquiao want no part of fighting Marquez ever again after the wars he put Manny through in their 2 fights.

      As far as Margarito and Cotto go, see my post on the 2nd page....and you lose major credibility by using Clottey as an example
      Floyd faked his retirement because of these guys (Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Williams, Oscar rematch) and now he went to vacation playing possum because of Pacquiao and Martinez. Can't accept the truth brothar?

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        Originally posted by -Top Rank- View Post
        Berto should have beaten Mosley to find out....but I see you want to pretend Berto is a victim or something.
        I'm not pretending he is the victim. Heck, he needs to step up his competition, that much is evident. But I REFUSE to believe that the reason he didn't get the Manny fight was because he didn't fight Mosley. Nothing you nor anyone else can say for me to believe that non-sense.

        Simple as this, Berto doesn't fit the mold of Manny's recent opponents, thus Manny is fighting Shane as opposed to Berto.

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          Originally posted by VAW-JR View Post
          I'm not pretending he is the victim. Heck, he needs to step up his competition, that much is evident. But I REFUSE to believe that the reason he didn't get the Manny fight was because he didn't fight Mosley. Nothing you nor anyone else can say for me to believe that non-sense.

          Simple as this, Berto doesn't fit the mold of Manny's recent opponents, thus Manny is fighting Shane as opposed to Berto.

          Manny is fighting Shane because Shane's name sells more then Berto's with the casual fans who will be buying the ppv. If Berto would have made Top Rank and team Pac more money he would be the opponent. You have got to be joking if you think a fighter on the level of Pac would be scared to fight a guy like Berto.

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            Originally posted by ny123 View Post
            Manny is fighting Shane because Shane's name sells more then Berto's with the casual fans who will be buying the ppv. If Berto would have made Top Rank and team Pac more money he would be the opponent. You have got to be joking if you think a fighter on the level of Pac would be scared to fight a guy like Berto.
            Who said someone was scared? I never said that. But its plain as day that Berto presents a better challenge than Shane Mosley at this point in their respective careers.

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              Originally posted by VAW-JR View Post
              Who said someone was scared? I never said that. But its plain as day that Berto presents a better challenge than Shane Mosley at this point in their respective careers.
              Probably but the reason the fight with Shane is being made is not because of him being more vulnerable then Berto but for the fact that he will generate more money due to his name with casual's. Bob Arum is a business man he is trying to generate the most money possible. I dont like the Mosley fight either but lets not act like Berto is being avoided because he is dangerous.

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                Originally posted by ny123 View Post
                Probably but the reason the fight with Shane is being made is not because of him being more vulnerable then Berto but for the fact that he will generate more money due to his name with casual's. Bob Arum is a business man he is trying to generate the most money possible. I dont like the Mosley fight either but lets not act like Berto is being avoided because he is dangerous.
                I disagree with this statement and also agree with this statement. I understand the business side of things. I mean, after Shane's most recent fight, Arum talked about how "done" Shane was and how he doesn't see anything in him to make a fight with Shane and Manny. Then after that, he praises Shane as an opponent for Manny. Weird.

                Anyways, Berto is clearly the better opponent at this point in time, and I don't there is any debating of that. Berto is young, fast, strong, has some skills and he presents something different for Manny as opposed to his last 3 (including Shane) opponents. I mean, Manny has given us Clottey, Tony and now Shane. Those are three straight fights from him that I don't think any hardcore boxing fan was dying to see.

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                  just typing that oscar is floyd's scraps should get your account deleted you moron. who the $#(^#@(% wouldn't fight the golden goose any time any where.

                  I stopped reading there cuz you're obviously a moron.

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                    Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                    just typing that oscar is floyd's scraps should get your account deleted you moron. who the $#(^#@(% wouldn't fight the golden goose any time any where.

                    I stopped reading there cuz you're obviously a moron.
                    I'd fight him right now Walt! I'm not joking either!

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                      Originally posted by VAW-JR View Post
                      I'd fight him right now Walt! I'm not joking either!
                      me too! our babies would be set for life coach...


                      but then we'd just be fighting pac's leftovers and would get 0 props.


                      how's the little man? my little girl is all over the place. I got her doing a little shadowboxing but she can't really throw a punch yet.

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