Would anyone actually suspect PAC of using PEDs if Mayweather Sr and Co. hadn't accus

[letsgobrady]

Chris John could box, has a defense, controls distance well. He's freaking underrated, it's sad that people forget how talented he was. On the other hand Juan Diaz and Katsidis lack defense and come in aggressively; which plays into Marquez's hands.


So NO, not weird at all.

not to mention that marquez is more aggresive now than when he fought john

[IronDanHamza]

iam not saying you said this but isnt it the same for pac on the lower weights where people he fought could box and control the distance?

It is.

But again, Marquez did it over 2 weight classes, Many did it over 8. Not saying this means he's on something, just saying surely you can understand the su****ion. Anyone who did the same would get a bunch of people making claims, its normal.

But to THEN for whatever reason refuse to take extra drug testing, surely you can understand why there is some people who are slightly su****ious?

[ALG United]

It is.

But again, Marquez did it over 2 weight classes, Many did it over 8. Not saying this means he's on something, just saying surely you can understand the su****ion. Anyone who did the same would get a bunch of people making claims, its normal.

But to THEN for whatever reason refuse to take extra drug testing, surely you can understand why there is some people who are slightly su****ious?

Manny Pacquiao: “I feel like I don’t need Mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the Mayweather fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight. That’s why I made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What else can I do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.?br />

[cixthree]

You guys are nuts. This was a hot topic of discussion in press row before Floyd Sr said anything publically.

To be honest, these dudes sound like desperate thieves, fumbling around to hide the goods cause the cops are at the door..
While the guy at the door is holding to his rites screaming at the cops "Show me a warrant..."

70 to 90% of these guys know something is up, but they're gonna stick to the script and hide behind that slowly crumbling wall.
Yea Floyd Sr snitched, now what you gonna do....

[Doctor_Tenma]

not to mention that marquez is more aggresive now than when he fought john

This too ^

[IronDanHamza]

Manny Pacquiao: “I feel like I don’t need Mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the Mayweather fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight. That’s why I made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What else can I do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.?br />

Mann just save it, bro. Lets not add 50 unnecessary pages to the thread...

[IMDAZED]

Thats great and all but it's hard to take anyone who writes for an internet based company seriously. No body of work, no investigative journalism, no actual relationships built with fighters. Essentially that writing is nothing more than a message board loud mouth who has good grammer and is in love with the sound of their own voice.

Were any "legitimate" journalists present? Probobly not! How many glorified message board warriors were having the discussion? When you say press row be a little more specific about what you mean when you say "press".

WHo told you me or anyone i mentioned writes for an internet based company? . And since when did that become bad anyway??

[flipbjefrox]

It is.

But again, Marquez did it over 2 weight classes, Many did it over 8. Not saying this means he's on something, just saying surely you can understand the su****ion. Anyone who did the same would get a bunch of people making claims, its normal.

But to THEN for whatever reason refuse to take extra drug testing, surely you can understand why there is some people who are slightly su****ious?

JMM started moving up at age what 34 and then started to KO guys naturally bigger than him as opposed to someone who moves up in division since he was 16

[IronDanHamza]

JMM started moving up at age what 34 and then started to KO guys naturally bigger than him as opposed to someone who moves up in division since he was 16

Correct.

Except Marquez spent most of his career at 126 and had significant power at 126 to which he's moved u 2 weight classes succesfully and carried decent power to 135. He tried to move to 147 but clearly struggled to carry any power.

Almost the exact opposite to what Manny has done..

[cixthree]

You forgot to ad this part...
Beats, Boxing & Mayhem: Now, you’re willing to compromise on the blood testing. You weren’t as flexible earlier this year and walked away to take another fight. Do you regret not compromising during the first negotiations and fighting Joshua Clottey?
notice Manny never answered if he regretted WALKING AWAY?

Manny Pacquiao: “I feel like I don’t need Mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the Mayweather fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight.
Wait, did'nt the guy just say YOU walked away

That’s why I made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What else can I do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.”
Ummmm, do you think Manny got the memo "He was supposed to say he wants 7 days".
Or Maybe they are keeping Manny in the dark, maybe Manny lets Bob and Kontz have too much unrestricted power.
Naw, the Brian Kenny interview clears Bob and Kontz, Manny didn't want 14 days or was it just the day of the fight? **** it, it's both.

You're wall is crumbling down all around you..... Now Manny looks like a juicer cheater, all because he refused to do what he's "SAYING" he wants to do now...
Don't that seem just a lil fishy?