Would anyone actually suspect PAC of using PEDs if Mayweather Sr and Co. hadn't accus

[ALG United]

Those type of things don't leave press row. And it probably never would have if Floyd Sr didn't open his mouth.

You just don't have no proof or link kid!!!! LIAR!!!

[Eaner0919]

Thats fine but for me it depends who saying where it's coming from. Is it some shhiitt bag blogger who I will never ever give credit to as a writer. Is it some *****t bag writer for some uncrediable boxing website? You have to understand in todays day and age of "everyone calls themselves a writer just becasue the have a ***ing blog on some no name website" does not mean the people in press row have any ***ing clue as to what they are talking about.


Im a skeptic to the bone and pardon me if I don't take "unamed sources" and "press row gossip" seriously.

and no I usually have conversations with guys from major sites like here max fnews, etc etc

and you do realize a lot of press row gossip happens because the fighters managers trainers and promoters gossip as well right?

often times to us

case in point. I knew about the Arreola trainer switch a long time ago but sat on it along with another media type because Henry asked us to.

stuff happens all the time

[flipbjefrox]

well here is the thing that a lot of people kind of gloss over or forget

while yes he is virtually weighing the same post fight weight his metabolism has changed according to Ariza to where it's insanely high enough to where he has to feed him a lot of calories in order for him to maintain weight. Now if this is the case (and kind of backed up by his strange weight of 144.6 for Margarito) then how do you account for him simply not cutting AND having his caloric intake increased yet maintaining his fight night weight as his weigh in weight



but yet he is

I would think if it was the same old Manny one would think the increase in his caloric intake combined with him not cutting would have him bigger, probably in the 150s.

if it's legit, which I am on the fence, then it's a great method as to how they get him ripped and targeted. Not very many conditioners are successful at that



could be but it's marginal



but it's still within the ballpark or else why say it


never used that.

see I like this type of debate because it's good to stretch the mind IMO

good stuff

When you quoted ariza "but he never gets bigger"
I think they just use that to justify the catch weight.

As for the bolded part again ariza could just be making stuff up tbh but i dont know. i cant comment on his intake because it's just Ariza and i have no facts to analyze that. It's not like when they weigh manny for fights they mention his body fat % where i could say look manny gained so and so without the water weight

[pistol whip]

Well you shouldn't. And I can understand why anyone would be skeptical. But I know eaner works for a pretty solid company and I think I can say the same.

Thats great and all but it's hard to take anyone who writes for an internet based company seriously. No body of work, no investigative journalism, no actual relationships built with fighters. Essentially that writing is nothing more than a message board loud mouth who has good grammer and is in love with the sound of their own voice.

Were any "legitimate" journalists present? Probobly not! How many glorified message board warriors were having the discussion? When you say press row be a little more specific about what you mean when you say "press".

[ALG United]

Because of their dislike for Floyd.

You twist everything eh...

[flipbjefrox]

JMM never had power at 126?

Well i am just testing the theory that a boxer shouldnt be able to carry his power and KO Naturally bigger men. would you say it's weird that JMM couldnt KO poor Chris John at 126 but was able to KO a heavier Katsidis and Diaz.

[Eaner0919]

When you quoted ariza "but he never gets bigger"
I think they just use that to justify the catch weight.

As for the bolded part again ariza could just be making stuff up tbh but i dont know. i cant comment on his intake because it's just Ariza and i have no facts to analyze that. It's not like when they weigh manny for fights they mention his body fat % where i could say look manny gained so and so without the water weight

Ariza is the key IMO and I think you and I agree on that

nice guy but kind of slippery when breaking down what he does for Manny in terms of what he gives him, never really going beyond surface level even when pressed a bit

could be that he has hit upon a mix or blend of the right items to fuel Manny and keep his weight on point

could be something else

[pistol whip]

and no I usually have conversations with guys from major sites like here max fnews, etc etc

and you do realize a lot of press row gossip happens because the fighters managers trainers and promoters gossip as well right?

often times to us

case in point. I knew about the Arreola trainer switch a long time ago but sat on it along with another media type because Henry asked us to.

stuff happens all the time

You do realize there is a diffrence in a switch in trainers and accusing the PFP #1 fighter in the world of using steroids right?

See this is why I can't take internet bloggers seriously. Had it been Matthew Aguilar who actually writes for a major newspaper and has a tremendous body of work writing about the sport in a legitimate fashion he would of broken the story months before the clown and his family opened their mouths. Forgive me if "well we were talking about it in press row" doesn't make me roll my ***ing eyes.

[IronDanHamza]

Well i am just testing the theory that a boxer shouldnt be able to carry his power and KO Naturally bigger men. would you say it's weird that JMM couldnt KO poor Chris John at 126 but was able to KO a heavier Katsidis and Diaz.

I see your point but JMM had power at 126, yeah he didn't stop or even beat Chris John but the a huge number of his fights at 126 ended by a win by KO.

Not saying this means he is on something, but moving up 2 weight classes and stopping fighters is a little different than moving up 8 weight classes and pummeling them to death. Just saying.

[Eaner0919]

You do realize there is a diffrence in a switch in trainers and accusing the PFP #1 fighter in the world of using steroids right?

wow you're hopeless

you do realize that I was showing you that talk among fellow media people happens all the time and not comparing the severity of what we talk about right

I mean you did get that out of what I said and not that I think they're the same right

please tell me you're not this bad?

See this is why I can't take internet bloggers seriously. Had it been Matthew Aguilar who actually writes for a major newspaper and has a tremendous body of work writing about the sport in a legitimate fashion he would of broken the story months before the clown and his family opened their mouths. Forgive me if "well we were talking about it in press row" doesn't make me roll my ***ing eyes.

why are you so offended?

lighten up Alice

you don't believe me I don't care man it's all good

but lighten up lol