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    #61
    Originally posted by yesir View Post
    he did not affect May/Hatton b.c floyd was ****ing hatton up on the inside and hatton was ineffective. actually, him breaking up the acting in their felt saved hatton, it didnt affect him. it affected floyd more than anything

    umm, yeah he did affect that fight, he let floyd dip down and turn away taking away the scoring area. he let floyd use his forearms in hattons throat all fight long, so far all those tactics are illegal in boxing. and it wasn't one offense, it was the WHOLE FIGHT. all the while he warned hatton for any little infraction and never said anything to floyd................ biased??? i think so, paid off? i think so, incompetent? inept? old? slow? and blind? i think so, all the above.....

    young cortez was good, the current cortez who is trying to be a celebrity with his " fair and firm " gib is crap. it puts cortez in a bad position from the moment he says that line, because if he makes one call, he's forced to make another to counter that call, to be fair, or was it to be firm??? idk, but once he started that campaign and tried to go for the celebrity status with his catch phrase he turned into a completely incompetent referee............ and has progressively gotten worst, and now gets more high profile fights....... his celebrity status is getting him these fights and not his current body of work.

    i've mentioned it to him once and he scoffed and ignored me, but at least he knows where real boxing fans stand with him and what he's doing.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Big Smoke View Post
      Lol at Khan turning around during an exchange and Maidana being the bad guy. Who the hell turns around like that, and gets the benefit of the doubt? Lol. "wait wait no punching, he turned around, let the queen turn back around".

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        #63
        Cortez is a biased unfair ref.

        Cortez cheated Humberto Soto when Soto fought Francisco Lorenzo.

        Cortez knew that Soto's punch was a glancing blow that barely grazed Lorenzo, and knew that Lorenzo was faking it, but went ahead and DQ Soto to prevent Soto from fighting Pac later that year.

        Cortez was also unfair when he failed to take a point away from Pac , in the 1st round of Pac-Marquez, after Pac hit JMM, after the 3rd knockdown, while JMM was already down.
        Thats why the Judge purposely scored the 1st round a 10-7, and not a 10-6, cause he was compensating for Cortez' failure to take a point away from Pac.

        Cortez was also unfair when he allowed Kevin McBride to cheat his way against Tyson, by constantly pushing and using his 30lbs weight advantage by pressing Tyson againsty the ropes for most of the fight.

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          #64
          What a bunch of ******s, its any tiny detail that these emotionally hurt fans hold onto whenever their favourite fighter loses. The ref did what the ref needed to do...personaly i think hes the best p4p ref ive ever seen in my entire profesional boxing analyist life.

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            #65
            Originally posted by yuppie View Post
            What a bunch of ******s, its any tiny detail that these emotionally hurt fans hold onto whenever their favourite fighter loses. The ref did what the ref needed to do...personaly i think hes the best p4p ref ive ever seen in my entire profesional boxing analyist life.
            i call shenanigans here, if he's the best ref that you've ever seen in your entire professional career? you haven't seem many fights.......... there are so many holes in his refereeing it's disgusting to watch.

            i would much rather have jay nady ref a fight than cortez. but you can honestly say that his refereeing job is on the same level as Smoger, Weeks, Bayless, Caiz jr????? hell no! cortez doesn't even hold a candle to them.........

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              #66
              A few years ago Cortez was the best referee in the world. I don't know if it got to his head or what but anymore he protects the star. Which is why he is still getting calls to work.

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                #67
                Cortez is shot.

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                  #68
                  so i suppose by your logic kelly pavlik shouldnt have been allowed to carry on against taylor?..... stfu lets never have another foty again?...... your acting like khan was in a coma after the fight... your boy finishd strong and won my respect, hell give any of the elite a nightmare but he is as dirty as ,,, got away with more than he was punished for.... and there is no way he won that fight


                  Originally posted by Dick Gore View Post


                  Maidana doesn't have to touch gloves with him man. Are you ******ed? Once the bell rings, he's supposed to kill Khan not be his friend.

                  He didn't throw elbows, Khan turned his back, offered to touch gloves and Maidana tried to deck him.

                  You're the one ignoring Khortez allowing excessive holding and letting Khan get beat up within an inch of his life in the 10th and 12th round and helping him survive.

                  Keep ignoring the obvious evidence to support your foolish claims.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                    im glad he didn't stop it either, but clearly khan was waivnig the whote flag. he was turning his back to maidana and walking away!!! then maidana would rush him and cortez would break it up??????? no warning to khan for turning his back to his competitor.

                    what I'm trying to say about cortez is that I have no doubt that if roles were reversed and maidana was getting hammered, the fight would have been over.
                    I'm not so sure about that Walt because the only reason Kahn turned his back to him (which was only once by the way) was because their arms got tangled up and Maidana kept hitting him in the back of the head.

                    Look I hear you but to jump from "Cortez should of stopped the fight" to "Cortez is bought and paid for" is a stretch.

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                      #70
                      cortez is either incompetant and/or biased.

                      but that's not the worst thing about him. the worst thing is he gets way too involved in the fight.

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