Manny Pacquiao: Skills or smart MATCH MAKING?

[CarlosG815]

It does sound crazy.

Especially after saying just 10 minutes ago... what opponent that Pac has faced has looked good going into a fight with him?

Well, you can chalk a Mosley fight right up there with the others that you so much despise.

Which performance was better? The 12 round broken trigger, flinching of Shane for the entire fight? Or the 12 round horrific... utterly horrific performance he put on with Mora?

Call Hernandez what you want... but at least Berto looked like he was alive and breathing.

Mosley will get the beating of his life if he faces Pac.

This is a fight where hindsight isn't required.

I can see it from right here.

Total and utter complete destruction.

Mora and Mayweather are totally different from the kind of fighter Pacquiao is... The fight would not play out the same.

If it takes place at 147, we got a fight.

[THE REED]

Mora and Mayweather are totally different from the kind of fighter Pacquiao is... The fight would not play out the same.

If it takes place at 147, we got a fight.

Of course it will be different...

Because Pac isn't going to potshot for 12 rounds... or have a hugfest with him like Mora..

He is going to be ringing off 7 punch combinations nonstop.. he is going to mangle him... utterly destroy him.

Mosley has one chance.. that's to hammer the perfect shot on Pacs chin like he did to Floyd.. and hope he knocks Pac out... because the chances he wins a decision against pac is about .0005%.

I don't know how you can make an argument of Pacs recent opponent list not looking good in their previous fights going into fight Pac...

And then tell me you want a Mosley fight.

Surely you can see how that looks?

[Blue Heffner]

Mosley will get the beating of his life if he faces Pac.

This is a fight where hindsight isn't required.

I can see it from right here.

Total and utter complete destruction.

Yeah. That's why I don't think the fight should happen. Shane being himself will take the fight but I don't want to see him go out like that.

Top Rank and Team Pac have seen how Shane is now and they are thinking, "We can be the first to knock him out....let's get'em."

[tomjo]

I think the same as the others on here to be honest... it is a bit of both. Although, that said he is brilliant at what he does regardless.

[CarlosG815]

Of course it will be different...

Because Pac isn't going to potshot for 12 rounds... or have a hugfest with him like Mora..

He is going to be ringing off 7 punch combinations nonstop.. he is going to mangle him... utterly destroy him.

Mosley has one chance.. that's to hammer the perfect shot on Pacs chin like he did to Floyd.. and hope he knocks Pac out... because the chances he wins a decision against pac is about .0005%.

I don't know how you can make an argument of Pacs recent opponent list not looking good in their previous fights going into fight Pac...

And then tell me you want a Mosley fight.

Surely you can see how that looks?

Anything can happen in a fight and you are taking one thing into account, and that is Pacquaio throwin 7 punch combo's but against who? Margarito and Josh Clottey? Those guys can't throw punches, they're too slow.

Mosley is still a good "boxer" and he has a lot of power and has short crisp punches. If Manny comes inside and leaves himself open for a 7 punch combo, Mosley will catch him, and Mosley can ****. He can get Pacquiao in trouble if Pacquiao tries to brawl, and Shane as a good chance at putting him out.

Everybody is buying the hype that Mosley is totally shot, and like I said I am not convinced of that yet. He didn't look too bad in his fight with Mora, it was more that Mora just wanted to hug, Shane has never been good with huggers. Mora didn't come to fight.

The difference is, I still see Mosley has good reflexes, speed, and power. The other opponents did not.

[hugh grant]

Its not careful matchmaking. If JMM beat Cotto, Hatton, Margarito, no body would be saying JMM was handpicked carefully matched opponents to make JMM look good.

JMM likes come forward fighters so he can counterpunch them.

[THE REED]

Anything can happen in a fight and you are taking one thing into account, and that is Pacquaio throwin 7 punch combo's but against who? Margarito and Josh Clottey? Those guys can't throw punches, they're too slow.

Mosley is still a good "boxer" and he has a lot of power and has short crisp punches. If Manny comes inside and leaves himself open for a 7 punch combo, Mosley will catch him, and Mosley can ****. He can get Pacquiao in trouble if Pacquiao tries to brawl, and Shane as a good chance at putting him out.

Everybody is buying the hype that Mosley is totally shot, and like I said I am not convinced of that yet. He didn't look too bad in his fight with Mora, it was more that Mora just wanted to hug, Shane has never been good with huggers. Mora didn't come to fight.

The difference is, I still see Mosley has good reflexes, speed, and power. The other opponents did not.

Well please let me know the last time you saw Mosley ringing off fast crisp combinations?

Margarito?

2 years ago?

And what style was that again, like you just said?

The kid had an 18 month lay off.. fought Floyd and couldnt pull the trigger after round 2, and looked literally horrible against Mora... hugging or no huggin... it's not like Mosley pulled the trigger and tried to catch Mora coming in.. hell, Mosley initiated just as many hugs as Mora did.

See in your previous posts, you say.. what opponents looked good going into a Pac fight?

But now you say "anything can happen in a fight".

Well I could of said that about Hatton, Cotto, Clottey or Margarito..


Mosley hasn't shown me anything in 2 years that he can do ANYTHING to Pacquiao.

All that tells us that he can... is what he used to be able to do.

But, I haven't seen that for quite some time.

Margarito is the only fight...

And like you used the style excuse for Pac throwing 7 punch combinations...

I use the style excuse for Mosleys knockout of Margarito.

Pac isn't Margarito.

[Khalid X]

I think boxing fans are ridiculous now in days.

I've asked this question and have yet to get a decent reply, so I'll ask it again; Who in boxing has a better resume in their last seven fights than Manny Pacquiao? I'm talking about wins....because you can easily list guys who fought tough competition but lost a majority of them.

Only person I can think of is Carl Froch.

People say Manny faces soft comp....but look at everyone else in the top
p4p list.

Truth be told, Ironically Floyd is up there as well...but you would never know it because these so called "Real Boxing fans" do everything in there power to discredit the top fighter's resume.

[Khalid X]

Its not careful matchmaking. If JMM beat Cotto, Hatton, Margarito, no body would be saying JMM was handpicked carefully matched opponents to make JMM look good.

JMM likes come forward fighters so he can counterpunch them.

Tell me about it. Who else was he suppose to fight.

I hear Cotto over Mosley, but if anything Mosley is more of a come forward brawling fighter than Miguel. Atleast Cotto shows occasional movement and tries to box.

Then I hear Bradley. Kid is a tremendous talent, but he doesn't fight any different than they guys Manny has destroyed. He is a boxer puncher, but still stands in front of you and tries to outfight you.


Now let's take Williams. People cry about come forward brawlers but not only does Williams fall into this category, his defense is worse than Margarito and Cotto's.


I mean I'm really trying to find out what style Manny is ducking etc because every name they throw around, has a similar style that Manny has been beating.

[hugh grant]

Tell me about it. Who else was he suppose to fight.

I hear Cotto over Mosley, but if anything Mosley is more of a come forward brawling fighter than Miguel. Atleast Cotto shows occasional movement and tries to box.

Then I hear Bradley. Kid is a tremendous talent, but he doesn't fight any different than they guys Manny has destroyed. He is a boxer puncher, but still stands in front of you and tries to outfight you.


Now let's take Williams. People cry about come forward brawlers but not only does Williams fall into this category, his defense is worse than Margarito and Cotto's.


I mean I'm really trying to find out what style Manny is ducking etc because every name they throw around, has a similar style that Manny has been beating.

I suppose Floyd. But he is running away outside of the ring even more than he does in the ring.

But it really is ridiculous excuse to say Pac beats people made for him. Their made for him cos he has the otherwordly abilities to deal with them.