7 Reasons Margarito Will Stop Pacquiao

[MaD RoBoT]

I basically see it similar to Dwyer in that Pacquiao will backup to the ropes and when he does, he'll find it hard to get off because Margarito will be swarming him with punches.

As Pacquiao showed in the Cotto fight, Freddie's gameplan doesn't always go according to plan if Pacquiao doesn't adhere to it. Cotto is a bigger single puncher than Margarito, so I don't think Manny made the calculation before going to the ropes. I just think Manny loves to scrap and won't just become passive become passive because of Margarito.

I don't see Margarito letting Pacquiao fight in the middle of the ring and if he does, I can see him still being effective. But to win he has to put Pacquiao on the ropes.

Pac can use his legs to circle for a lot of the fight, but even he needs some rest time. The Williams fight told me just how suffocating the pressure can be.

good points

but the Williams fight was years ago, and that was a younger Tony who can manage to throw infinite punches per round

we don't know if Tony is still capable to throw that kind of barrage

what we know is that Manny can throw that numbers as long as he figured out that he can overwhelm him by his speed

[Pudgemeister]

Margarito after the fight will be saying "He was too fast."

[muppetman]

Margarito after the fight will be saying "He was too fast."

hahahah dont count on it!!!pac will be saying (hes too big) after tony beats him

[boojee]

After analyzing a few of Margarito's (specifically Williams, Santos, and Martinez) and Pacquiao's fights, I have come to the conclusion that Margarito has a great shot at stopping Pacquiao.

1 - Margarito has underrated timing/counterpunching against southpaws, he has this hard counter right uppercut/hook to the body that he lands a lot on southpaws. I don't see Pacquiao getting away from it consistently either.

2 - Margarito has underrated defense against southpaws, he caught/blocked/dodged most of Williams jabs and straight lefts.

3 - Margarito finds a way to consistently get to them offensively, he starts landing that right to the body after that he starts coming with his left hook to the body, straight right up top, etc.

4 - Pacquiao's defense is based almost entirely on his legs, as soon as Margarito is able to consistently close the distance, his legs won't be able to get him out of trouble consistently. Pacquiao has almost no inside game, so all he does is cover up and shoot his counter right hook.

5 - Margarito won't respect Pacquiao's power, he has a great chin to do this, but even when he does get hurt or stunned, he'll still keep coming forward. He got hurt against Santos (who had a 10 pound advantage 160 to 170) and he still came forward.

6 - The pressure he puts on is incredible. Even Paul Williams throwing 1200+ punches had to consistently hold to a point where he was warned in the 7th and kept holding in spots. Paul Williams was taller (easier for taller fighters to hold an opponent) and had good strength to keep Margarito in the clinch, 2 things I feel Pacquiao won't be able to do. When Margarito gets to his body and starts piling it on, he won't be able to stop it, unless he runs.

7 - Pacquiao's aggressiveness will play against him. He will expend energy exploding in, letting his combinations go, and getting out. Only to have Margarito's counter right to the body land in the exchange, if Margarito misses, he'll just come right back and let his shots go.

To me, the most important question that has to be answered in the fight is:

Can Pacquiao take Margarito's body shots and pressure without getting worn down?

Believe it or not, the man you probably feel is too slow to land, will land, and Manny's resistance will have to answer that question.

I had Pacquiao by UD and I thought it would be easy, but it's changed (not because of any rumor or hype either) to Margarito KO10.

8. Pacquiao forgot to bring his aura of invincibility on fight night.

[zero188]

After analyzing a few of Margarito's (specifically Williams, Santos, and Martinez) and Pacquiao's fights, I have come to the conclusion that Margarito has a great shot at stopping Pacquiao.

1 - Margarito has underrated timing/counterpunching against southpaws, he has this hard counter right uppercut/hook to the body that he lands a lot on southpaws. I don't see Pacquiao getting away from it consistently either.

2 - Margarito has underrated defense against southpaws, he caught/blocked/dodged most of Williams jabs and straight lefts.

3 - Margarito finds a way to consistently get to them offensively, he starts landing that right to the body after that he starts coming with his left hook to the body, straight right up top, etc.

4 - Pacquiao's defense is based almost entirely on his legs, as soon as Margarito is able to consistently close the distance, his legs won't be able to get him out of trouble consistently. Pacquiao has almost no inside game, so all he does is cover up and shoot his counter right hook.

5 - Margarito won't respect Pacquiao's power, he has a great chin to do this, but even when he does get hurt or stunned, he'll still keep coming forward. He got hurt against Santos (who had a 10 pound advantage 160 to 170) and he still came forward.

6 - The pressure he puts on is incredible. Even Paul Williams throwing 1200+ punches had to consistently hold to a point where he was warned in the 7th and kept holding in spots. Paul Williams was taller (easier for taller fighters to hold an opponent) and had good strength to keep Margarito in the clinch, 2 things I feel Pacquiao won't be able to do. When Margarito gets to his body and starts piling it on, he won't be able to stop it, unless he runs.

7 - Pacquiao's aggressiveness will play against him. He will expend energy exploding in, letting his combinations go, and getting out. Only to have Margarito's counter right to the body land in the exchange, if Margarito misses, he'll just come right back and let his shots go.

To me, the most important question that has to be answered in the fight is:

Can Pacquiao take Margarito's body shots and pressure without getting worn down?

Believe it or not, the man you probably feel is too slow to land, will land, and Manny's resistance will have to answer that question.

I had Pacquiao by UD and I thought it would be easy, but it's changed (not because of any rumor or hype either) to Margarito KO10.

you have an argument, but i think all of what you said comes down to one question, how much does margarito have left? even you said you didnt count the mosley fight. he got brutalized. no way in hell pacquiao would be fighting the margarito who fought cotto. you could have have hit him with a bat and he still would have kept coming forward. if ariza is right, he will tire, and thats where margaritos chance is.

lets hope you are right and he has enough to KHTFO

[go1nbanana]

After analyzing a few of Margarito's (specifically Williams, Santos, and Martinez) and Pacquiao's fights, I have come to the conclusion that Margarito has a great shot at stopping Pacquiao.

1 - Margarito has underrated timing/counterpunching against southpaws, he has this hard counter right uppercut/hook to the body that he lands a lot on southpaws. I don't see Pacquiao getting away from it consistently either.

2 - Margarito has underrated defense against southpaws, he caught/blocked/dodged most of Williams jabs and straight lefts.

3 - Margarito finds a way to consistently get to them offensively, he starts landing that right to the body after that he starts coming with his left hook to the body, straight right up top, etc.

4 - Pacquiao's defense is based almost entirely on his legs, as soon as Margarito is able to consistently close the distance, his legs won't be able to get him out of trouble consistently. Pacquiao has almost no inside game, so all he does is cover up and shoot his counter right hook.

5 - Margarito won't respect Pacquiao's power, he has a great chin to do this, but even when he does get hurt or stunned, he'll still keep coming forward. He got hurt against Santos (who had a 10 pound advantage 160 to 170) and he still came forward.

6 - The pressure he puts on is incredible. Even Paul Williams throwing 1200+ punches had to consistently hold to a point where he was warned in the 7th and kept holding in spots. Paul Williams was taller (easier for taller fighters to hold an opponent) and had good strength to keep Margarito in the clinch, 2 things I feel Pacquiao won't be able to do. When Margarito gets to his body and starts piling it on, he won't be able to stop it, unless he runs.

7 - Pacquiao's aggressiveness will play against him. He will expend energy exploding in, letting his combinations go, and getting out. Only to have Margarito's counter right to the body land in the exchange, if Margarito misses, he'll just come right back and let his shots go.

To me, the most important question that has to be answered in the fight is:

Can Pacquiao take Margarito's body shots and pressure without getting worn down?

Believe it or not, the man you probably feel is too slow to land, will land, and Manny's resistance will have to answer that question.

I had Pacquiao by UD and I thought it would be easy, but it's changed (not because of any rumor or hype either) to Margarito KO10.

Point 5 is the worst mistake a Pac opponent would make. If they put too much respect on Pac's speed, and not respect Pac's power (the left), they will get KD/KOed.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Im basing Tonys power off Pre Scandal and Post Scandal.. Pre Scandal Tony has had a number of TKO's and KO's was he loaded during these THEIRS A POSSIBILITY...

Post hand warp Scandal Tony has fought Mosely which was a L and Garcia which was a UD..

You know what's wrongheaded, though?

Assuming that Margarito's punches can't do damage to Pacquiao just because a naturally much bigger man than Manny walked through a lot of them. It doesn't matter that Garcia's a journeyman, there are many journeymen or comparatively untalented fighters who are durable and strong at their natural weight-classes. Pacquiao is a much smaller man than Garcia.

[sigrab jr]

Queloque you have to take into consideration that Margarito is coming down 4lbs since his last fight. You're looking at a 100% healthy WW Tony. You don't know how he's gonna look like at 150, coming down from 154, at age 32[never a good idea].

We saw DLH fight at 154 in a competitive fight against an A+ fighter in Mayweather then goes down to a 150 catchweight just months after and doesn't look that spectacular against a bloated JWW in Steve Forbes.

And you can kinda compare Forbes to Pacquiao in that Forbes was smaller and faster than DLH, while DLH had a good chin and came forward all night. Pacquiao is smaller and faster than Margarito and Margarito has a good chin and will be coming forward all night minus the good jab that DLH had[which most likely made the difference in the Forbes fight and made the Mayweather fight so close]. Although DLH beat Forbes, don't forget how the featherfisted Forbes left DLH's face and Pacquiao is no featherfisted boxer.

[FloydTBE]

Queloque you have to take into consideration that Margarito is coming down 4lbs since his last fight. You're looking at a 100% healthy WW Tony. You don't know how he's gonna look like at 150, coming down from 154, at age 32[never a good idea].

We saw DLH fight at 154 in a competitive fight against an A+ fighter in Mayweather then goes down to a 150 catchweight just months after and doesn't look that spectacular against a bloated JWW in Steve Forbes.

And you can kinda compare Forbes to Pacquiao in that Forbes was smaller and faster than DLH, while DLH had a good chin and came forward all night. Pacquiao is smaller and faster than Margarito and Margarito has a good chin and will be coming forward all night minus the good jab that DLH had[which most likely made the difference in the Forbes fight and made the Mayweather fight so close]. Although DLH beat Forbes, don't forget how the featherfisted Forbes left DLH's face and Pacquiao is no featherfisted boxer.

Very good points.
Agree with you about the forbes-dlh fight. also about tony, we dont know what kind of shape he will be in, strength and physical condition wise. I hope to see a great fight, cant wait

[freedom213]

Note: I didn't take the Mosley fight into account because it will have little/no effect on the outcome of the fight.

u are typically a very good analytical poster but you should take a look at your post. This fight will closely resemble the DLH fight but Margs will definitely throw more punches and be willing to walk through some fire to get his own punches in. If Margs can catch Pac early and hurt him he may be able to break Pac down over the long haul. Otherwise he will take a beating, whether or not Pac can stop him or not.