Horus Presents: WHY is Team Pacquiao making getting 50% a STICKING POINT!!!

[Horus]

Horus,my dude,the majority of the world believes Pacman is the man to beat,stats wise may say different!!I personally believe Pacman is where the goods is at myself!!The point I'm making is ppv #s & that sort of thing shouldn't stop a fight of this magnitude from happening!!Instead of fans of either fighter bickering about why their fighter deserves more revenue,maybe they should figure out a way to get those guys to understand that they just need to fight,their looking for the way to better each other outside the ring while boxing is dying & them 2 are the one's who can save it!!
Take 50/50,make the fight happen & whoever wins gets 60/40 the second time around!!

So if you believe this, why is Team Pacquiao Making getting 50% a sticking point when they know they have NO Numerical or Statiscal argument to support their demands???

Dont you think by them asking for something everyone in the world knows they dont deserve they are Jeopardizing the fight???

[Twako]

Below are the statistical facts behind fundamental and deciding factors behind determining what a fighter should received when it comes to the split of the revenue. Previous Guaranteed Purses and Previous Fight Revenue income generated. This the measures are the only true and fair measures to determine what should fairly get distributed during a purse dispute. As a result, any reasonable person with a decent education can see that Team Pacquiao by both measures of Previous Guaranteed Purses and Previous Fight Revenue income generated has not earned or deserve the right to make getting 50% of the money a sticking point in order to get the fight.

By team Pacquiao making 50% a sticking point, they are effectively letting us boxing fans know, they have no interest in this fight, unless they can receive money by all measures they have no merit to earn or be rewarded with, when they have a possible opponent who has undisputable claim backed by facts that they deserves more financial consideration based on what the facts tell us.

$Previous Guaranteed Purses and Previous Fight Revenue income generated.$

Floyd Mayweather Guaranteed Purses:
Floyd Mayweather $ 22.5 Million vs. Mosley $7 Million
Floyd Mayweather $10 Million vs. Juan Manuel Marquez JMM $4 Millio
Floyd Mayweather $11 Million vs. Ricky Hatton $6 Million
Floyd Mayweather $10 Million vs. Oscar De La Hoya $23.3 Million
Floyd Mayweather $8 Million vs. Carlos Manuel Baldomir $1.6million.
Floyd Mayweather $5 Million vs. Zab Judah $1 Million
Floyd Mayweather $4 Million vs. Shamba Mitchell 375k
Floyd Mayweather $3.2 Million vs. Arturo Gatti $3.5 Million
Floyd Mayweather $3 Million vs. De Marcus Corley $150.000
Floyd Mayweather $1.5 Million vs. Diego Corrales $1.25 million
Floyd Mayweather $150.000k vs. Genaro Hernandez $600k

* Oscar De La Hoya also gave Mayweather a percentage of the PPV revenue. This was the first time De La Hoya ever did this, all his previous opponents got a guaranteed amount; no more, no less, no share of the PPV revenue. Mayweather walked away with between $22 and $30 million,

Floyd Mayweather Average Guaranteed Purse for his Past 6 Fights: $ 11 Million

Manny Pacquiao Guaranteed Purses:

Pacquiao $12 Million vs. Clottey $1.5 Million
Pacquiao $7.5 million vs. Miguel Cotto $4 Million Pacquiao $12 million vs. Ricky Hatton $11 Million
Pacquiao $6 Million vs. De la Hoya $20 Million
Pacquiao $3 million vs. David Diaz 800k
Pacquiao $2.5 Million vs. Juan Manuel Marquez 2 $500
Pacquiao $650.000 vs Juan Manuel Marquez $500k

Manny Pacquiao Average Guaranteed Purse for his Past 6 Fights:
$ 7.16 Million

Mayweather 7 Pay Per View Fights
6.9 Million Buys and $342 Million

June 2005 Mayweather vs. Arturo Gatti 365k= $16.5 million
Apr. 2006 Mayweather vs. Zab Judah 375k = $ $16.8 million
Sep 2006 Mayweather vs. Carlos Baldomir 325k = $16.3 Million
May 2007 Mayweather vs. De la Hoya 2.44M=$136.6 Million
Dec 2007 Mayweather vs. Ricky Hatton 920k=$50 Million
Sep 2009 Mayweather vs. Juan Manuel Marquz 1.1M=$52 Million
May 2010 Mayweather vs. Shane Mosley 1.4M=78.3 Million

Pacquiao's 12 pay-per-view fights
6.25 million buys and $320 million
June 2008: Pacquiao vs. David Diaz 250k PPV = $12.5 Million
Dec 2008: Pacquiao vs. De la Hoya 1.25M PPV= $70 Million
May 2009: Pacquaio vs. Ricky Hatton 800k PPV= $43 Million
Nov 2009: Pacquiao vs. Miguel Cotto 1.25 M PPV = $68 Million
Mar 2010: Pacquiao vs. Joshua Clottey 700k PPV= $35 Million

other ppv:
Pacquaio vs. Morales 350,000 PPV
Pacquiao vs. Morales II- 355,000 buys
PACQUIAO vs. BARRERA 350,000 PPV
Pacquaio vs. Marquez I 360,000 PPV
Pacquaio vs. MarquezII 400,000 buys

those statistical facts dont mean **** if you dont put them into the right context and situations. the pac-mab/em/jmm fights were all 130 and below, these fights never generated big ppv numbers in the history of boxing.

the jmm-pac2 is the record holder for highest ppv number at that weight and below. and this is pre-dlh.

so again, facts w/o knowing how they came about and presenting them as such is ******ed.

[Boxingholic]

as usual Flod fan obsessed how much Floyd should make. Do you get a cut of the money Horus?
BTW, Pac can draw people to watch him fight and thats hardly with no adds, 24/7, commercials. Unlike Floyds last fight vs Mosley only did over 1m ppv buys(expected over 3m buys), and they went out of town on cost to promote the fight.
And Floyd agreed back in march for 50/50 split 14 days ost, Pac agreed to 14 days ost, to even no cut off, and Floyd wants to retire for a year or 2, now wants more money? and you guys still back this pathetic coward. Sad.

[Horus]

right on. i cant really understand why *****s care much about these instead of just pushing and wanting the fight to happen.

I want the fight to happen, thats why I am so concerned about Team Pacquiao making earning 50% of the money when they know they do not deserve it on any level.

Which in my opinion is KILLING THE FIGHT!!

[SoZe]

SoZe presents: Why does Horus believe you can end a question with exclamation mark?

Shouldn't he know by now that is where a question mark should go?

[Horus]

those statistical facts dont mean **** if you dont put them into the right context and situations. the pac-mab/em/jmm fights were all 130 and below, these fights never generated big ppv numbers in the history of boxing.

the jmm-pac2 is the record holder for highest ppv number at that weight and below. and this is pre-dlh.

so again, facts w/o knowing how they came about and presenting them as such is ******ed.

WHAT about THESE FACTS:

Floyd Mayweather Guaranteed Purses:
Floyd Mayweather $ 22.5 Million vs. Mosley $7 Million
Floyd Mayweather $10 Million vs. Juan Manuel Marquez JMM $4 Millio
Floyd Mayweather $11 Million vs. Ricky Hatton $6 Million
Floyd Mayweather $10 Million vs. Oscar De La Hoya $23.3 Million
Floyd Mayweather $8 Million vs. Carlos Manuel Baldomir $1.6million.
Floyd Mayweather $5 Million vs. Zab Judah $1 Million
Floyd Mayweather $4 Million vs. Shamba Mitchell 375k
Floyd Mayweather $3.2 Million vs. Arturo Gatti $3.5 Million
Floyd Mayweather $3 Million vs. De Marcus Corley $150.000
Floyd Mayweather $1.5 Million vs. Diego Corrales $1.25 million
Floyd Mayweather $150.000k vs. Genaro Hernandez $600k

* Oscar De La Hoya also gave Mayweather a percentage of the PPV revenue. This was the first time De La Hoya ever did this, all his previous opponents got a guaranteed amount; no more, no less, no share of the PPV revenue. Mayweather walked away with between $22 and $30 million,


Floyd Mayweather Average Guaranteed Purse for his Past 6 Fights:
$ 11 Million
Mayweather Highest Guaranteed Purse:$ 22.5 Million


Manny Pacquiao Guaranteed Purses:

Pacquiao $12 Million vs. Clottey $1.5 Million
Pacquiao $7.5 million vs. Miguel Cotto $4 Million
Pacquiao $12 million vs. Ricky Hatton $11 Million
Pacquiao $6 Million vs. De la Hoya $20 Million
Pacquiao $3 million vs. David Diaz 800k
Pacquiao $2.5 Million vs. Juan Manuel Marquez 2 $500
Pacquiao $650.000 vs Juan Manuel Marquez $500k

Manny Pacquiao Average Guaranteed Purse for his Past 6 Fights:
$ 7.16 Million

Manny Pacquiao Highest Guaranteed Purse:$12 Million


WHERE DO TEAM PACQUIAO GET 50% FROM?

[Ravishing]

I want the fight to happen, thats why I am so concerned about Team Pacquiao making earning 50% of the money when they know they do not deserve it on any level.

Which in my opinion is KILLING THE FIGHT!!

No it's not man...

The most it's gonna be is 55/45 going Floyd's way, and I say that's probably pushing it. Floyd will take the 50/50. Again, I have yet to hear either GBP or Mayweather deny these claims which if there's an apparent "Gag Order" some action would've taken place in normal situations.

[Twako]

WHAT about THESE FACTS:

Floyd Mayweather Guaranteed Purses:
Floyd Mayweather $ 22.5 Million vs. Mosley $7 Million
Floyd Mayweather $10 Million vs. Juan Manuel Marquez JMM $4 Millio
Floyd Mayweather $11 Million vs. Ricky Hatton $6 Million
Floyd Mayweather $10 Million vs. Oscar De La Hoya $23.3 Million
Floyd Mayweather $8 Million vs. Carlos Manuel Baldomir $1.6million.
Floyd Mayweather $5 Million vs. Zab Judah $1 Million
Floyd Mayweather $4 Million vs. Shamba Mitchell 375k
Floyd Mayweather $3.2 Million vs. Arturo Gatti $3.5 Million
Floyd Mayweather $3 Million vs. De Marcus Corley $150.000
Floyd Mayweather $1.5 Million vs. Diego Corrales $1.25 million
Floyd Mayweather $150.000k vs. Genaro Hernandez $600k

* Oscar De La Hoya also gave Mayweather a percentage of the PPV revenue. This was the first time De La Hoya ever did this, all his previous opponents got a guaranteed amount; no more, no less, no share of the PPV revenue. Mayweather walked away with between $22 and $30 million,


Floyd Mayweather Average Guaranteed Purse for his Past 6 Fights:
$ 11 Million
Mayweather Highest Guaranteed Purse:$ 22.5 Million


Manny Pacquiao Guaranteed Purses:

Pacquiao $12 Million vs. Clottey $1.5 Million
Pacquiao $7.5 million vs. Miguel Cotto $4 Million
Pacquiao $12 million vs. Ricky Hatton $11 Million
Pacquiao $6 Million vs. De la Hoya $20 Million
Pacquiao $3 million vs. David Diaz 800k
Pacquiao $2.5 Million vs. Juan Manuel Marquez 2 $500
Pacquiao $650.000 vs Juan Manuel Marquez $500k

Manny Pacquiao Average Guaranteed Purse for his Past 6 Fights:
$ 7.16 Million

Manny Pacquiao Highest Guaranteed Purse:$12 Million


WHERE DO TEAM PACQUIAO GET 50% FROM?

are you a freaking nerd or something? do you get anything from floyd's purse? does guaranteed purse amount equate to purse split? LOL you're now just trolling.

lets see. if clottey's guaranteed purse amount in his pac fight is higher than what bradley would get in his upcoming fight, does this mean clottey should get the higher split if they ever fight? funny troll.

[megadeth]

those statistical facts dont mean **** if you dont put them into the right context and situations. the pac-mab/em/jmm fights were all 130 and below, these fights never generated big ppv numbers in the history of boxing.

the jmm-pac2 is the record holder for highest ppv number at that weight and below. and this is pre-dlh.

so again, facts w/o knowing how they came about and presenting them as such is ******ed.

The weight class either of them was in has NO bearing on the bottom line.
Everytime someone tries to defend the 50-50, then mention things that arent the bottom line.

50-50 is fair (I love this one..why because people say so??)
Pac is P4P #1
Pac got belts in 7 different weight classes.
Pac is not american
Pac is larger over seas

None of them have anything to do with the fact that Mayweather is the bigger draw period. That is what the split should be based on, as it always has been.

[Horus]

They both will make more money than they've ever made by fighting eachother. Although Floyd has earned more than Pac in the past, this fight is a fight of high signifigance. Biggest/most anticipated fight since Ali/Frazier. 50/50 should get it done. If Floyd was to walk away from it over 10%, it will show that he had no interest in taking the fight. On the flip side, if a 55/45 offer was presented to Pac in favor of Floyd and Pac were to turn it down, he's a flat out ass!

60/40, 55/45 , 53/47 Should get it done based on Previous Guaranteed Purses and Previous Fight Revenue income generated.

50/50 should not be a sticking point for team Pacquiao...
Is my point.

Because no facts support their argument.