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    #51
    Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
    Why do you speak about things you have no idea about like they're facts?

    You're just a little kid who's bitter and doesn't want to see Vitali fight anyone with a pulse.

    You have NO IDEA what the extent of either Toney or Vitali's injuries are, and as I told you before, James Toney (at 36 years old, constantly out of shape and injury prone) is NOT so formidable that he needs to be avoided.
    And you speak as if you are an MD?

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      #52
      Originally posted by Nautilus
      And you speak as if you are an MD?
      Because I said he doesn't know the extent of the injuries makes me sound like I'm a doctor?

      Once again, Vitali:

      1) Has had more than enough time to recover
      2) Hasn't fought a credible Heavyweight in years
      3) Would be willing to fight Rahman on Sept 24th if he was ready


      But he can't fight James Toney?

      It's a high profile fight, a big money fight, and one that's very win-able for him.

      What's the problem?

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        #53
        Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
        Because I said he doesn't know the extent of the injuries makes me sound like I'm a doctor?

        Once again, Vitali:

        1) Has had more than enough time to recover
        2) Hasn't fought a credible Heavyweight in years
        3) Would be willing to fight Rahman on Sept 24th if he was ready


        But he can't fight James Toney?

        It's a high profile fight, a big money fight, and one that's very win-able for him.

        What's the problem?
        Solve the problem for Vitaliy, please:

        1) if he fights Toney or Brewster, as Vit wanted, he likely looses WBC title to Rahman; and he will get accused of ducking rahman

        2) if he waits for Rahman, the Sep28 will likely be posponed even further on Rahman's demand, which will make Vit go without a fight even longer; and he will get accused of ducking Toney or Brewster.

        If you were Vit, which one of the two would you pick?

        The choices aren't that great either way, especially coming of an injury (provided it is serious, of course).
        Last edited by Nautilus; 07-01-2005, 09:20 PM.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
          Because I said he doesn't know the extent of the injuries makes me sound like I'm a doctor?
          you could have asked him to elaborate

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            #55
            Originally posted by Nautilus
            Solve the problem for Vitaliy, please:

            1) if he fights Toney or Brewster, as Vit wanted, he likely looses WBC title to Rahman; and he will get accused of ducking rahman

            2) if he waits for Rahman, the Sep28 will likely be posponed even further on Rahman's demand, which will make Vit go without a fight even longer; and he will get accused of ducking Toney or Brewster.

            If you were Vit, which one of the two would you pick?

            The choices aren't that great either way, especially coming of an injury (provided it is serious, of course).

            You are speaking as though you know what the WBC will and won't sanction.

            In the ********** interview with Shelly Finkel (Vitali's advisor) he stated he didn't think there would be a problem getting the fight sanctioned by the WBC should they move forward with the Toney fight.

            Vitali is dead set on fighting in Sept, and the chances the Rahman Barrtett winner being ready are slim. So he's going to fight anyway, and I think it's pretty clear he'll be given clearence to fight without being stripped, so I think those questions you asked are moot points. If he was going to be stripped, he wouldn't even consider fighting, he'd just wait for the Rahman Barrett winner.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Nautilus
              you could have asked him to elaborate
              I didn't need to. He's 16, and he doesn't know what the extent of either injuries were. I've discussed this with him before, and he's dead set on seeing Vitali take a little to no risk fight in Sept.

              Having a career full of little to no risk fights has made me want to see Vitali fight someone in the top 5-7 of the division. It's not like anyone of them are animals.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
                You are speaking as though you know what the WBC will and won't sanction. .
                Certainly not. I said "likely", not "for sure".

                Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
                In the ********** interview with Shelly Finkel (Vitali's advisor) he stated he didn't think there would be a problem getting the fight sanctioned by the WBC should they move forward with the Toney fight.
                If so, why do you assume that Toney-VK won't happen?


                Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
                Vitali is dead set on fighting in Sept, and the chances the Rahman Barrtett winner being ready are slim. So he's going to fight anyway, and I think it's pretty clear he'll be given clearence to fight without being stripped, so I think those questions you asked are moot points. If he was going to be stripped, he wouldn't even consider fighting, he'd just wait for the Rahman Barrett winner.
                Please answer: what should Vitaliy do?

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
                  I didn't need to. He's 16, and he doesn't know what the extent of either injuries were.
                  And I am 4, am I?


                  Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
                  Having a career full of little to no risk fights has made me want to see Vitali fight someone in the top 5-7 of the division. It's not like anyone of them are animals.
                  Were not Sanders and Johnson top 5 ranked by WBC before they fought VK? I do not think Williams was top 5 ranked though.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Nautilus
                    Were not Sanders and Johnson top 5 ranked by WBC before they fought VK? I do not think Williams was top 5 ranked though.
                    Johnson was a credible opponent, and it's not Vitali's fault Johnson came in at 260+, but he did, and that was sad.

                    I don't consider a 38 year old Corrie Sanders a very credible win. Maybe you do, and if so that's your opinion.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Nautilus


                      If so, why do you assume that Toney-VK won't happen?




                      Please answer: what should Vitaliy do?

                      1) Because he's looked at Oleg Maskiev as an opponent, and now Brock.

                      2) Fight James Toney.

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