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    Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya View Post
    They didn't know that there was no cut-off, which is their failure.

    But if Floyd really don't want Manny to cheat and he wants an even playing field, he shouldn't have offered 14 days. As PED experts say in the forums, 14 days is enough to cycle off PEDS from the system, hence is useless.

    He shoulda stressed OST UNTIL THE FIGHT NIGHT. They don't want and deter cheaters, then they have to stress until the fight night then. But out of arbitration they offered 14 days.

    If Manny and his team gets the flack of insisting a cut-off then Team Mayweather's also su****ious as to giving 14 days but then is really not enough to catch a supposed PED user. Much to their claim that they want an even playing field.

    Ok COACH my reply didn't include a question huh
    Great post.

    Manny an his team of geniuses agreed to something they had no idea about.

    So they said we want a cutoff date because were scared of needles.

    Floyd said ok 14 days even though that is still enough time to cheat.

    What was manny and his team response no fight.

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      Floyd sr. says manny is dirty and the whole world goes crazy.Why are so many people so moved by the words of someone they say is a crackhead, ex con, uneducated, drug dealer etc.

      Anything else he says is dismissed. Why do his commenst about Manny and PED's create so much conversation?

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        I can only assume that Manny Pacquiao against Cotto is Manny at his best right now. Whether or not he's on steorids, he'd have used for that match.

        Do I think Floyd Mayweather, USDAA approved - Mosley style- could beat that version of Manny, despite what he could be using?

        Yes.

        Do I understand why Floyd wants testing? Sure do.

        I guess we're going to have to just go the reverse with this one and convince Mayweather to dope for this fight. If he does that I can pick him by KO 1.

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          What he did to Marquez was underhanded but not illegal.

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            Originally posted by illmaticfighter View Post
            Great post.

            Manny an his team of geniuses agreed to something they had no idea about.

            So they said we want a cutoff date because were scared of needles.

            Floyd said ok 14 days even though that is still enough time to cheat.

            What was manny and his team response no fight.
            Credit to LED, who has a separate thread about the 14 day point.

            That's what I'm sayin' all along, that scumbag Arum made this blunder and he overlooked it, realized that Floyd was playin' hardball, wiggled out of the negos and fight was down the drain.

            Both camps are to blame, unfortunately for Manny, as he is the fighter, he's got the least to say on all of this coz he just wants to fight, and he gets all the blame WTF! very unfortunate.

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              Originally posted by 2501 View Post
              What was so even about fighting Juan Manuel Marquez?

              Facts:

              Marquez never had a fight above 135 LBS (list all the fight night weights you want, but the fact remains

              Floyd refused to come into the weight they originally agreed on

              Floyd originally wanted to fight Marquez @ 147 LBS

              Floyd keeps talking about how boxing should be an even playing field, but his choices don't reflect that. Sure, you can say that it was Marquez's fault for signing the contract. But then, wouldn't it also be Cotto's fault for agreeing to fight Pacquiao? But thats besides the point, thats not what this thread is about.

              How was Marquez/Mayweather fougth on an "even playing field"?
              What Floyd did wasnt Illegal from a competitive/ safe/ and health Point of view. He broke a verbal agreement. in which he decided too pay Marquez 600k for.

              IF IT WAS CONTRACTUAL, he would have lost 20% of his purse to the NSAC


              Marquez Called Mayweather out.
              Marquez wanted this fight.
              Marquez ask for this fight while knowing Mayweather fights at WW. meaning 141-147 pounds.
              Nobody made Maquez speak Mayweathers name after the diaz fight.
              He decideD the best choice for his career would be to fight Mayweather.
              and it was.
              Add into the fact he had no leverage in neogations.

              What do you expect?

              The even Playing Field Marquez had, was Floyd was coming off a 2 year lay off, and even worse he was coming off a 2 year lay off fighting one of the greatest fighters on this generation.

              Floyd did not have the timing advantages going into that fight, because he was off for 2 years.

              Floyd didnt have his muscle memory advantage because was off for 2 years.
              the list goes on.

              The biggest Advantage Marquez had was being active while Floyd wasnt.

              Floyd violated a agreement. it is not comparable to using PED's and steroids.
              If you want to compare a contract to Steroid abuse, you are grasping at straws.

              How about we compare lying to your spouse, to trying to kill your spouse.
              That would be the Equivalent of your argument of comparing violating a agreement, vs. using steroids and PED's.
              Last edited by Horus; 05-10-2010, 01:26 PM.

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                So adding extra rules to your fights and your fights only is an even playing field?

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                  Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
                  So adding extra rules to your fights and your fights only is an even playing field?
                  Tyson did it when he fought Evander the second time.

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                    Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
                    So adding extra rules to your fights and your fights only is an even playing field?
                    You mean like Manny putting a 1 Million per pound penalty on Cotto and a 10 Million dollar penalty on Floyd?

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                      Originally posted by COACH-WEBB View Post
                      Tyson did it when he fought Evander the second time.
                      And? Thats one fight out of the thousands and thousands of other fights that have happened since then that have gone on just fine without OSDT.

                      I've said this before and I'll say it again it seems to me that Floyd getting his way is more important to you than the fight actually happening.

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