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    like i posted earlier


    okay 2501, then if you want to spin it like that, then floyd shouldn't fight manny then---coz he came up from a smaller weightclass also, and he and jmm are about the same size, so it's never going to be even----

    it would be a better argument on your behalf had floyd started at 147----but he didn't he came up from a smaller weight class just like jmm did---manny did---roy jones did---you get my drift i'm sure----so your argument holds little merit, because he was talking about using ped's----floyd came in 2 pounds overweight for the jmm and he really never said he was going to come in at 144---he always said this is a ww fight---and he paid 600,000 for it---so, you act as if he didn't pay for it-----

    and you're arguement would be better has floyd only made manny take the drug tests----he didn't----he said they both would do it-----you really can't argue logically about this subject, because manny initially agreed to the drug tests-----just like floyd immediately agreed to the 147 weight demand and penalty that manny put in------did floyd put that in the contract, that if manny came in overweight against him, he would have to pay 10 million dollars for each pound? no----so, was that an even playing field? no----

    at least floyd said they would both do it-----not just manny----and manny didn't have to agree to do it initially---then he all of a sudden changed his mind about cutoff dates?

    from 3 days---to 5 days---to 30 days and right after the fight---to 24 days and right after the fight---and walked away from 14 days---then comes out and supposedly says 14 days is okay, because he's doing it for the fans and the sport---then comes out and says he never said that---then freddie roach says 17 or 18 days----that's a bunch of bull**** if you ask me-----

    floyd is not wrong in this at all-----boxing is really never going to be on an even playing field when it comes to weights because fighters gain and lose weight constantly----but if floyd wants something for the both he and manny, how is he wrong in this? this fight is so big, different things will come up----

    still nobody decided to argue this, and i'm not surprised at all---there is no argument really----floyd is not wrong in this situation-----manny is---point blank period---

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      Originally posted by Kingstan315 View Post
      So why doen't pac take that excuse and wipe his a** with it by taking the test and bussin floyd up??? End of story all the glory.
      Some people don't like to be manipulated into doing things they don't want.

      Anyman with a pair of balls and a set of priciples would have told Floyd to go *** himself.

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        Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
        ugh because Manny would stand to lose millions and millions more dollars if the fight was called off due to a weight issue thats why. This really isn't that hard to figure out and why do you keep bringing up this cathweight ****t? The OSDT and catchweights are two diffrent thing that have nothing to do with each other. Catchweight fights happen all the time, I see them on friday night fights, TV Azteca, Fox sports so when did a catchweight become this unreasonable thing?

        Seriously man you gotta stop reaching and just pray for the fight to happen. The fight is whats important here because none of us are paying to watch Floyd and manny take a drugtest are we?
        I'm reaching? Its not even about catchweights. SMH. I mentioned how Pac put a weight penalty on a man who had NEVER missed weight before, Erik Morales.

        The point is (which you have missed) is that THE COMMISSION handles the weight penalties. Hello. So since the COMMISSION handles weight penalties, why does Manny go ABOVE the COMMISSION and impose his OWN penalties?

        Manny overrides the COMMISSION with the weight penalties when it suits him, so why does he NOW want to go only do what the COMMISSION says regarding drug testing?

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          There is a difference between cheating and Marquez moving up in weight by his own accord...want to make a case, the least you can do is comprehend that much.

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            Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
            And when oh when did Floyd's camp site that as a reason for the OSDT?


            If Floyd's camp did mention it during the whole drama then I must of missed it but when the whole contraversy first kicked off did anyone in Floyds camp mention Freddie Roache's past fighters drug usage? No!!!
            An when did manny camp site floyd's coming in overweight vs jmm as a reason for the 10 million dollar penalty?

            Just as you can assume so can I.

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              Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
              Some people don't like to be manipulated into doing things they don't want.

              Anyman with a pair of balls and a set of priciples would have told Floyd to go *** himself.
              Are you arguing that Manny was manipulated into agreeing?

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                Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
                When that much moneys on the line? No!!
                Dude, get real.

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                  Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
                  Some people don't like to be manipulated into doing things they don't want.

                  Anyman with a pair of balls and a set of priciples would have told Floyd to go *** himself.
                  I would have prefferred that to the excuses and negotiating... Still it's simple do you agree???

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                    He wants to clean up the sport/wants an even playing field blah blah blah. All BS. If he wanted to clean up the sport the fighters on the undercard on May 1 would have had to have taken OSDT.

                    Think Pac's just struck the fear of God into him. Seriously, he knows Pac has an issue with blood testing so close to a fight, and he knows if you say something enough times people will start believing it. So that's my 2 cents.

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                      Originally posted by COACH-WEBB View Post
                      I'm reaching? Its not even about catchweights. SMH. I mentioned how Pac put a weight penalty on a man who had NEVER missed weight before, Erik Morales.

                      The point is (which you have missed) is that THE COMMISSION handles the weight penalties. Hello. So since the COMMISSION handles weight penalties, why does Manny go ABOVE the COMMISSION and impose his OWN penalties?

                      So the commission is gonna penalize the other fighter the 10million plus dollars that Manny would of lost in those fights had the fight been called off due to weight issues?

                      Thats the point you are not realizing! Considering that dozens of people would lose ton's of money I would say it's fair for pac's camp to protect itself. Plus weight is not a rule that is overseen by the commisions because fighters can fight at "any" weight they want to. Weight has and will always be something that has been agreed upon by the two fighters. If Manny and Cotto wanted to fight at an agreed up on weight limit of 175 pounds would the commission have stopped them? No!!!!! All the commission has done is set up the weight limits for each weight class but it has never had any say as to what weight a fighter has to fight at. So the weight limit has and will always be an agreement between the fighters and it's not exactly something the Commission has any real control over.

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