Serious Question: All Floyd Wants Is An Even Playing Field Right?

[illmaticfighter]

if jmm vs floyd was uneven, so was roy jones vs john ruiz an uneven fight, also roy never fought at light heavy before.

sugar ray robinson was a middleweight who skipped all the way up to light heavy weight to challenge for the title against the best fighter there,this was also his first fight there.

Manny pac was fighting at 135 an he skipped to 147 to fight oscar dela hoya,manny pac had never fought at welterweight before.

bumpppppppppp....

[Deevel916]

Are you asking a question, based off the questions that I asked?

Tamis_Siensya, where are you?

I'm asking because there's alot of back and forth about what went down during arbitration, but has there ever been a report disclosed about what exactly went down?

Both sides can say what they want. Doesnt mean its true. I would like to know exactly went down during those negotiations.

[2501]

it was pretty simple to me.

i don't understand the point of the thread. i thought TS had some "insider" information on floyd doing something illegal.

and what insider information do you have that Pac was doing something illegal?

[Spacey1991]

Something that gets swept under the carpet is Floyd originally asked for the Pac fight to be at 154.

When did he? It was only Roach who claimed this...

[illmaticfighter]

and what insider information do you have that Pac was doing something illegal?

we have him denying a test that someone who actually did something illegal when it comes to boxing took an had no complaints about.

we also have footage an there were blood tests and urine samples taken to prove floyd isn't doing anything illegal either.

[V.WEBB]

I'm asking because there's alot of back and forth about what went down during arbitration, but has there ever been a report disclosed about what exactly went down?

Both sides can say what they want. Doesnt mean its true. I would like to know exactly went down during those negotiations.

I'm not talking about arbitration homie. I'm talking about the negotiations BEFORE it got to that point fam. We KNOW that Manny and his team AGREED to the OST from the BEGINNING.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

That was a tune up 25. JMM wasnt suppose to win.

[FLY TY]

Well as Floyd likes to say "skills pay the bills".

If u cant box, then I dont see how ped's are gonna help u. The same way I dont see how u can become this awesome baseball player just by taking steroids alone. U still need skills and hand eye coordination to hit that ball. Sure it'll give u the ability to hit it harder and further, but u still have to make contact. Steroids dont give u hand/eye coordination.

Will someone like Mayorga become a master boxer if he were to start using PED's?

Some ignorant people credit ped's for Pac's ability to take punches! When did steroids ever give u a chin or ability to take a shot? Oh i'm sorry, its this mythical a-side meth that Roger speaks of that makes bullets bounce off of you! LMAO!!!

you make good points.....

but aside from being able to "perform" better, PED's do increase stamina, the ability to train longer, as well as the ability to heal faster.

they're called "performance enhancers" for a reason.

the furthest i've ever gone about manny and PED's, is that it's suspiscious he won't take the tests, and his excuses are laguhable. whether or not he's using, i don't know, so i won't act like i do.

you're right in the sense steroids don't improve the "technical" aspects of the sport, but at the same time, they do make you stronger, and improve your body's ability to perform better under physical stress. fact is, there are many, many PED's out there, that do all sorts of different things. i'm not an expert, so once again i won't pretend to be....but when it comes to steroids/PED's, you'd have to agree, some of their affects are common knowledge.

[Bogler]

***crickets***

thats what you call negotiations. and they did it in the spirit of making the fight, hoping they'd be able to come to an agreement, inspite of the bull**** accusations. but floyds vagina grew even bigger, he probably thought team pac would say no outright.

[V.WEBB]

thats what you call negotiations. and they did it in the spirit of making the fight, hoping they'd be able to come to an agreement, inspite of the bull**** accusations. but floyds vagina grew even bigger, he probably thought team pac would say no outright.

How so, explain.