Comments Thread For: Mayweather Above Pacquiao; Ring's Rankings Questionable

[jrosales13]

Because he got it by beating Cotto when Cotto was ranked behind Shane.

Oh ok you counting just that? Then yes after Cotto he should not have been #1.

But, after holding a win over Cotto and Clottey who both were ranked top 5 at the time. And, then you count that Shane had been inactive for over a year. Then Pac desever the #1 spot.

[Boxing Sage]

Mayweather should be No. 1 because he fights at the full welterweight limit, not "catchweights"

[jrosales13]

Overall yes Pac should have and was ranked higher than Mosley but not at WW because Mosley beat the man Margorito #1 WW who beat the man Cotto #1 WW to become the #1 WW even though they screwed up the rankings and had Pac over Mosley at WW when he wasn't supposed to be.

Shane was the lineal champ after Margarito.

But, not The Ring champ. He was ranked #1. Rankings and championships are different. To be the champ you have to beat the champ. To be ranked #1 you don't have to beat the #1 ranked fighter..

After Shane beat Margarito he was inactive for 16 months. While in the mean time Pac beat two top 5 WWs. There should be no problem with Pac being RANKED #1 after Clottey. You just can't sit on your rankings.

However, the argument should be that Shane should of been The Ring champ after Margarito NOT ranked #1.

[Dave Rado]

i dont see what the problem is here. Mayweather beat the #1 welterweight so he deserves to be ranked #1 at welterweight but Pacquiao retains the #1 p4p status. totally understandable.

It's not that simple, because leading up to the Mayweather-Mosley fight, The Ring ranked Pac, not Mosley, #1 at Welterweight. So it's not as understandable as you say.

It is still understandable though, because Mosley was ranked higher than Cotto, leading up to the Pac-Cotto fight (and even more so after Cotto lost), so logically a near shut-out against Mosley is going to count for slightly more than a near shut-out-out against Cotto and Clottey. But only very slightly. It's a toss-up really. But the fact that it isn't clear cut doesn't excuse the ridiculous rant from Ronnie.

[McYeah]

What a terrible article, of course mayweather should be ahead of pac, especially since it was pac that ducked mayweather.

besides isn't manny some sort of politician now? if he wins than when is he going to be able to take 3-4 months off at a time to train for fights?

[DuttyAlacrity]

Oh ok you counting just that? Then yes after Cotto he should not have been #1.

But, after holding a win over Cotto and Clottey who both were ranked top 5 at the time. And, then you count that Shane had been inactive for over a year. Then Pac desever the #1 spot.

Pacquiao got the no.1 spot right after cotto and no beating two top 5 shouldn't make you no. 1 beating no.1 should

[chan184]

BLOGGIE HATETHANLIELSZ not a journalist but a blogger that Bsence keeps around to get useless info from Alex Ariza every other day.

[Dave Rado]

Shane was the lineal champ after Margarito.

There is no objective body that can award the lineal title when it becomes vacant. The nearest thing we have to such a body is The Ring. Anyone who doesn't accept The Ring as arbiter is basically saying that every fan should decide for themselves who the champions are. Well that's a logically reasonable point of view but it won't lead to any clarity, and boxing could do with clarity.

Leading up to the Margarito-Mosley fight, the title was vacant, Margarito was ranked #1 and Mosley was ranked #3. (Cotto was ranked #2). The Ring's championship policy is that a vacant lineal title can be filled when the #1 and #2 fighters square off, or in exceptional circumstances, and at The Ring's discretion, when the #1 and #3 fighters square off. So The Ring asked it's of 39 respected boxing experts, all but one of whom don't work for The Ring, whether the Margarito-Mosley fight should be considered an exceptional circumstance.

The panel voted against, mostly because most felt that Margarito was ducking Williams, who had been ranked #2 by The Ring before he moved up in weight, who had only recenlty moved up solely because he couldn't get a meaningful fight at Welterweight, and who had offered Margarito a lot more money to fight him at Welterweight in January 2009 than Margarito was offered to fight Mosley.

The other reason they didn't feel it was an exceptional circumstance was that there was no reason why the Margarito-Mosley winner couldn't fight Cotto in their next fight.

I agree with both reasons.

[datboyditta]

I truly cant wait one more time...for floyd to...

kick somebody else ass like baby bruce lee pacman. i see why u people dog may but im starting to feel like we need to protect our fighters, he's black, he's the best, and he make the most money, u mention his name u get a crowd u mention pac name u get vietnam!!! stop hating we will never lose to pac he too small and his defense sucks. need i say more.

[mrjoeblive]

Pacquiao shouldn't have been ranked ahead of Mosley in the first place!!!!

that was always my beef. how did the "hero of asia" (is that a new one?) get rated above shane at ww? that should have been contested by shane. one win at ww dont rate you higher than shane who had many wins at ww.