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    #31
    Seems like he's overlooking amir ...could end up being a big mistake on paulie's part

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      #32
      What is there to say? Ariza's only known client was the late Diego Corrales...anyhoo, if you actually look at Pacquiao's last opponents---he isn't defying aging....they're effing punching bags for him big and slow.

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        #33
        Just because you can't do it doesn't mean others can't.

        Let's be honest. Almost everyone who accused pac of something illegal are bitter individuals.

        Pauli Malignaggi
        Mayweather clan
        Dela Hoya
        Golden Boy promotions
        Cintron
        Teddy Atlas

        These are a bunch of bitter individuals right there.

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          #34
          Believe whatever you wish to, but the sad fact this that Manny gets his phenomenal stamina from a work ethic few can equal and instead of being praised for his hard work and dedication, people simply become su****ious.

          If all the ATGs were fighting now, i have no doubt in my mind that most if not all of them would be accused of roiding since they themselves were incredible fighters.

          ESPECIALLY Armstrong.

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            #35
            i said the same thing. the fact that pac put power being every 1200+ punch rings an alarm

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              #36
              Originally posted by sunny31 View Post
              Look I know paulie talks a lot of ****, and to be honest I haven't spoken much on the whole steriod issue one way or another, because I really don't know what to think. But Paulie was making a lot of sense in the interview at the khan presser. Talking about pac's performance against clottey I like most people thought pacquiao's workrate was astonishing, but not unrealistic because we have seen other fighters do it, micky ward, joe calzaghe just to name a couple.

              But Paulie made some pretty interesting observations, first he picked up on the fact that so many of pac's punches had almost everything behind them, a lot of fighters with great workrate in the past, a lot of the mexican guys for example throw a lot of sequential and fluent combinations in the pocket, but not huge power in each shot, normally there 1 or 2 power punches mixed in the combination here and there. But manny is litterally for a lot of that fight loading up and hammering power shots to the body and head, over and over, resetting and then over again. This leads me to the next point paulie talked about, the issue of overtraining was mentioned which has always been at the back of my mind, im surprised manny has never overtrained for any of his fights, especially when he was struggling to make weight. Look trust me when I tell you I am a huge fan and there is nothing that would please me more than to know for sure manny was clean, but I just re-watched the pac-clottey fight and I can kind of see what paulie is talking about.

              If he was using, how deep do you guys think the problem is? How long? Who in the team or at the wild card would know about it in your opinions?
              the bolded is the only truth in your whole post.

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                #37
                Originally posted by MidnightBliss View Post
                I hope you realise steroids dont enhance your stamina or endurance. The reason why he can still punch like he did in the first round is because hes got great cardio, and most of his power is generated around his legs.

                Im sick and tired of this steroid crap, these guys fight at below 70kg you must be ******ed to think you need steroids or HGH to be around this weight.
                epo does. and who said pac wwas on roids?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Bogler View Post
                  the bolded is the only truth in your whole post.
                  Oh ****ing do one...absolutely useless

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Afighter2U View Post
                    Believe whatever you wish to, but the sad fact this that Manny gets his phenomenal stamina from a work ethic few can equal and instead of being praised for his hard work and dedication, people simply become su****ious.

                    If all the ATGs were fighting now, i have no doubt in my mind that most if not all of them would be accused of roiding since they themselves were incredible fighters.

                    ESPECIALLY Armstrong.
                    I agree with the work ethic, I mean floyd has an awesome work ethic also, but I don't think anyone else really gets close from the fighters I have seen training I definitely think manny is the hardest worker out there. Thing is like i put in my first post I am surprised he has never over-trained, never just pushed it too far, because of how hard he works, maybe he has and no one has noticed because he is so good but trust me I want to believe he is clean, you can refer back to any of my old posts to know that I am a fan of manny pacquiao, but after what paulie said and then re-watching the fight, I have never seen what manny did on saturday night, by any fighter, forget about carrying the power and speed up, the punch resitance and all that bull****.

                    I am purely focusing on his workrate on saturday and how that workrate can be broken down, when you watch how many shots he threw with everything on it. I mean he was unloading! It was certainly not 1250 punches thrown like you would think they would come from any other fighter, and he genuinely looked like he had at least another 5 rounds at the end. Its crazy! I am certain henry armstrong did not look like that, and no fighter ever has. This is the first time I have questioned him.

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                      #40
                      Manny is killing everyone because he is talented and has the best work ethic--this is a deadly combo as we can see.

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