Paulie Interview on Pac and Steroids

[Boxing Scene]

Paulie, once again for the probably 100th time, made himself look like a ****ing idiot. He's jealous because he's the LIGHTEST puncher at 140.

That's saying a lot.

[sunny31]

Have you ever heard of SHAOLIN or any other KUNG FU training? or even KARATE?

Their science of hitting isn't just the body. The mind/body culture is such that you use minimal effort with maximum output. What we see is only the "visible"...internal training such as mind training is main thing about this kind of training.

Did you see the stick training that Pacquiao uses? It is unheard of in boxing until Pacquiao employed it.

Why and how do I know these? Because I used to practice Jeet Kune Do (Bruce Lee's art), Kali (FMA) and now into Tai Chi (internal arts).

Pacquiao employs not just the physical training but mind/spiritual training.

No i don't know really know anything about the marial arts you mentioned. I know about the stick training, and a little about jeet kune do from bruce lee documentaries. So what does this mind training involve, how does this help him with his stamina and workrate?

[Seleção No. 13]

Have you ever heard of SHAOLIN or any other KUNG FU training? or even KARATE?

Their science of hitting isn't just the body. The mind/body culture is such that you use minimal effort with maximum output. What we see is only the "visible"...internal training such as mind training is main thing about this kind of training.

Did you see the stick training that Pacquiao uses? It is unheard of in boxing until Pacquiao employed it.

Why and how do I know these? Because I used to practice Jeet Kune Do (Bruce Lee's art), Kali (FMA) and now into Tai Chi (internal arts).

Pacquiao employs not just the physical training but mind/spiritual training.

Thank you!

I was just about to post an article about his Jeet Kune Do Nutritionist

MANILA, Philippines - It’s no secret that Manny Pacquiao relies on his speed and power to wear down bigger opponents. Miguel Cotto, whom Pacquiao fights in Las Vegas this weekend, is cut in the same mold as David Diaz, Oscar de la Hoya and Ricky Hatton – all of whom were heavier than the Filipino ring icon when they fought.

Cotto is expected to enter the ring weighing at least 10 pounds more than Pacquiao but the disparity doesn’t bother strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza who guaranteed the other day the challenger will be stronger than ever against the defending WBO welterweight champion from Puerto Rico.

What makes Ariza so confident is nutritionist Teri Tom’s careful monitoring of Pacquiao’s body composition.

Pacquiao and Cotto agreed to face off at the catchweight limit of 145 pounds even as the welterweight division is up to 147. Pacquiao, who weighed in at 138 for his fight against Hatton last May, will pack in extra pounds to scale close to 145 while Cotto must bring down his usual walking weight of about 160.

Tom was brought in by Ariza for Pacquiao’s fight against De la Hoya because the catchweight limit of 147 was way beyond the Filipino’s normal weight last year. Tom’s mission was to make Pacquiao stronger and faster despite adding weight to his body. He weighed in at 142, his highest ever, for the fight.

“Teri has been with us since the Oscar fight,” Ariza told The Star. “She is doing the body composition. She wasn’t able to come to Manila (but) she’s with us in this fight (against Cotto). Her role is very extensive. She runs everything we do and gives us the base of everything I follow.”

Ariza said Tom monitors Pacquiao’s body progress and charts his muscle development.

“She doesn’t have to be with us everyday,” continued Ariza. “Her role is (to come in) once a week. She checks and makes sure everything’s on track. She keeps all the records of where we started from Oscar to Hatton. And we compare notes on Manny’s speed, body fat and weight. We compare everything from fight to fight to make sure we’re in progress.”

Ariza, in an exclusive overseas telephone interview, said the exercises that he puts Pacquiao through in the gym are elements of a comprehensive program formulated with Tom and another associate Andrea Macias of San Diego State.

“We work as a team,” said Ariza. “I run everything in our program through Teri and Andrea. We look at all the aspects of conditioning – isometrics, diet, muscle build-up. It’s not the work of any one person. We’re all focused on Manny and we’re excited to be working with the world’s greatest fighter, pound for pound.”

Tom is a summa cum laude graduate in communications at UCLA, earned a Master’s degree in nutrition science at California State-Los Angeles and completed her clinical dietetic rotations at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center. She also has a certification as a personal trainer from the National Academy of Sports Medicine. To top it all, Tom is a jeet kune do instructor.

Tom said she was challenged to build up Pacquiao’s body mass without compromising his speed and power when he decided to move up two weight classes to fight De la Hoya.

“Manny has a history of dipping into the 130s only several weeks into training which was fine when he was fighting at a lower weight but this time, we had to keep him heavy so he’d have some heft going into the ring with Oscar,” wrote Tom in her book “Martial Arts Nutrition.”

Tom said in Pacquiao’s diet, she increased the frequency of his meals and switched his supplements. She introduced a protein shake of about 20 grams in the morning before jogging and another 20 grams after his workout in the afternoon. There was also a mid-morning snack, usually an egg sandwich. The goal was to build his muscle mass.

Eating a lot of calorie-laden food at his favorite Thai restaurant beside the Wild Card Gym in Los Angeles was not a problem in Tom’s program.

“When you’re Manny, you burn through calories like there’s no tomorrow,” said Tom. “My feeling is if he’s four to six percent body fat and losing muscle is a concern, I’m not going to quibble about the Thai restaurant and coconut sauces. It’s more important that he get those calories in and that it’s palatable to him and that he enjoys his food. A lot of people ask me about the four cups of rice he’ll have. Again, not a problem when body fat is coming down and we are preserving muscle.”

Tom said a careful balance of nutritional intake is crucial during Pacquiao’s training period. “Carbohydrate intake during extended bouts of exercise has been proved to improve performance,” she noted. “Carbohydrates are key to fueling your alertness and skill whether you’re training or competing.”

And the stick training.

[sunny31]

Have you ever heard of SHAOLIN or any other KUNG FU training? or even KARATE?

Their science of hitting isn't just the body. The mind/body culture is such that you use minimal effort with maximum output. What we see is only the "visible"...internal training such as mind training is main thing about this kind of training.

Did you see the stick training that Pacquiao uses? It is unheard of in boxing until Pacquiao employed it.

Why and how do I know these? Because I used to practice Jeet Kune Do (Bruce Lee's art), Kali (FMA) and now into Tai Chi (internal arts).

Pacquiao employs not just the physical training but mind/spiritual training.

Thank you!

I was just about to post an article about his Jeet Kune Do Nutritionist


And the stick training.

Yeah I have seen the de la hoya 24/7 before and read that article, but it doesn't say anything about pac doing any other forms of training in there, just the nutrition. I know he does core strength training and plyometrics for his legs too, but I have never heard about him doing any type of martial art training apart from sticks

[MidnightBliss]

Look I know paulie talks a lot of ****, and to be honest I haven't spoken much on the whole steriod issue one way or another, because I really don't know what to think. But Paulie was making a lot of sense in the interview at the khan presser. Talking about pac's performance against clottey I like most people thought pacquiao's workrate was astonishing, but not unrealistic because we have seen other fighters do it, micky ward, joe calzaghe just to name a couple.

But Paulie made some pretty interesting observations, first he picked up on the fact that so many of pac's punches had almost everything behind them, a lot of fighters with great workrate in the past, a lot of the mexican guys for example throw a lot of sequential and fluent combinations in the pocket, but not huge power in each shot, normally there 1 or 2 power punches mixed in the combination here and there. But manny is litterally for a lot of that fight loading up and hammering power shots to the body and head, over and over, resetting and then over again. This leads me to the next point paulie talked about, the issue of overtraining was mentioned which has always been at the back of my mind, im surprised manny has never overtrained for any of his fights, especially when he was struggling to make weight. Look trust me when I tell you I am a huge fan and there is nothing that would please me more than to know for sure manny was clean, but I just re-watched the pac-clottey fight and I can kind of see what paulie is talking about.

If he was using, how deep do you guys think the problem is? How long? Who in the team or at the wild card would know about it in your opinions?

I hope you realise steroids dont enhance your stamina or endurance. The reason why he can still punch like he did in the first round is because hes got great cardio, and most of his power is generated around his legs.

Im sick and tired of this steroid crap, these guys fight at below 70kg you must be ******ed to think you need steroids or HGH to be around this weight.

[FloydTBE]

Paulie has got a tough fight on May 15th, I dont think he needs to be worrying about pacquiao at the moment in time

[deuce_drop]

malignaggi's worst fear, no one listening to him, no more interviews. the guy loves to hear himself talk, i wouldn't be surprised if he goes home and rubs a few out watching himself in interviews on youtube.

bottom line is this, while maliganaggi is working out to look good, pacquiao is working out to do damage, something malignaggi has never done on even the C level.........

malignaggi should worry about his punching power and his foot work, because he needs to learn how to dent a aluminum can and he needs his footwork to stay away from the heat of his opponents.

the only guy that i like to watch that has little ko power is ivan calderon.............

[norrin]

I don't want to rehash the whole steriod or epo fiasco but I believe what sunny31 is saying is how is it possible only for Manny to have such incredible stamina and speed. If it is his training regime then we would see the same results in some of Ariza's clients. If it is the fact that Manny is genetically blessed then it should have manifested itself a lot earlier in his career. Statistically speaking, Manny is defying the odds in regard to his age and performance.

[sunny31]

I hope you realise steroids dont enhance your stamina or endurance. The reason why he can still punch like he did in the first round is because hes got great cardio, and most of his power is generated around his legs.

Im sick and tired of this steroid crap, these guys fight at below 70kg you must be ******ed to think you need steroids or HGH to be around this weight.

I used steroid as a general word for the sake of the conversation because there are numerous performance enhancing drugs that can elevate your stamina and muscle endurance, no matter what size you are. Obviously most steriods what put too much weight on you and its a lot of fluid and bulky muscle rather than lean fast twitch muscle. Please don't talk down to someone when you haven't even properly bothered to read the thread

[sunny31]

I don't want to rehash the whole steriod or epo fiasco but I believe what sunny31 is saying is how is it possible only for Manny to have such incredible stamina and speed. If it is his training regime then we would see the same results in some of Ariza's clients. If it is the fact that Manny is genetically blessed then it should have manifested itself a lot earlier in his career. Statistically speaking, Manny is defying the odds in regard to his age and performance.

Thanks for looking at it impartially which is what I am trying to do, and actually sticking to the point unlike most of these. I didn't ask anyone to give me their opinion on paulie malignaggi the fighter or person