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Last edited by SOPH~ REP.; 01-17-2010, 12:12 AM.
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Originally posted by Street Bully Jr View Post[/B]
Faulty comparison. It assumes Floyd produces quality fights the way Prince produces quality music.
Floyd is a dud inside the ring.
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Personality and arrogance has nothing to do with someones success in this business. The Promoter is the main reason why some succeeds and some dont. I am getting out of the box here, look at Floyd, ODH, and Pacman, they all have different personalities, if these three were handled by other promoter other than TOP Rank, they will not be so successfull as they are right now. These three made names because of Top Rank and Arum, because Arum do spent money to promote his fighters. Arum (a promoter with clout) is good in exposing his fighters to any kind or types of communication, whether on TV or newspaper, etc. BUT his best medium of exposure is his MOUTH. When Arum speaks to reporters, everybody listen. I am sure you know that most of the words coming out of Arum's mouth are most likely not all true, but the reporters print it or report anyway, because he is Arum. How often do you see other promoters do that. Arum can get away with anything. He can sell anything. The Pacquiao-Cotto fight is one of them. ON Cotto-Clottey fight, most believed that Clottey won that fight over Cotto ( I do too) , nevertheless, PPV sales for Pac-Cotto were in excess of 1.4 million buys.
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Originally posted by BabeLazy View PostPersonality and arrogance has nothing to do with someones success in this business. The Promoter is the main reason why some succeeds and some dont. I am getting out of the box here, look at Floyd, ODH, and Pacman, they all have different personalities, if these three were handled by other promoter other than TOP Rank, they will not be so successfull as they are right now. These three made names because of Top Rank and Arum, because Arum do spent money to promote his fighters. Arum (a promoter with clout) is good in exposing his fighters to any kind or types of communication, whether on TV or newspaper, etc. BUT his best medium of exposure is his MOUTH. When Arum speaks to reporters, everybody listen. I am sure you know that most of the words coming out of Arum's mouth are most likely not all true, but the reporters print it or report anyway, because he is Arum. How often do you see other promoters do that. Arum can get away with anything. He can sell anything. The Pacquiao-Cotto fight is one of them. ON Cotto-Clottey fight, most believed that Clottey won that fight over Cotto ( I do too) , nevertheless, PPV sales for Pac-Cotto were in excess of 1.4 million buys.
Why did Mayweather leave Top Rank if the company is so good at marketing and promoting boxers? Mayweather made more money in one fight than he did in his entire career with Arum. Mayweather became a bigger star, household name, and made more money after he left Bob "Snake" Arum. Being signed to a promotional company is only good when you are an up an coming boxer or you are not a household name like Manny, Mayweather, DLH, etc.
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Originally posted by gqjohnb View PostYeah they constantly hate and bash on the more vocal black fighters because they won't "stay in their place" but then take advantage of the less vocal ones its pretty much the same in the US for most ********** but its magnified on black ones. yall notice when he was quiet floyd he was gettin wrote off and not gettin paid now that he outspoken atleast he's gettin paid. and are yall still denying the guys ppv power I mean the guy gave his last like ten fighters their biggest payday and would have kept that streak going if the pac fight got made... i mean if you don't like the guys style thats cool but he's undoubtedly a huge draw.
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cause floyd is like the douchebag that women fall for, you know he's a ass but you think you can change him so you let him dominate you will he give's you the shoulder roll
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Originally posted by shadeyfizzle View Postpremise of thread was that mayweather enjoys the biggest fanbase of any african american fighter because he's an *******. i commented that mayweather doesnt have his own fanbase and piggybacks off other fighters' fanbases. the ******* thing only keeps in the spotlight but doesnt bring him any fans.
calliloyd counters by bringing up floyd's ppv numbers against hatton and delahoya. but when you look closer they're virtually indistinguishable against pacquiao.
If mayweather had such a big fanbase why did his fights against judah and baldomir which he was the clear a-side and had to carry on his back, and enjoyed the same #1p4p status outsold in ppv buys by the pacquiao-morales fights 3 divisions lower.
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Originally posted by shadeyfizzle View Postso the ******* thing keeps floyd in the limelight. Monica lewinsky was famous and had plenty of exposure. did that help her sell any books???
Roger Huerta was on the cover of sports illustrated. an honor that hasnt been bestowed upon any fighter since Mike Tyson. Did that give him the biggest fanbase of any UFC fighter???? No it did not.
It's quite clear that roy jones jr still enjoys the biggest fanbase of any active african american fighter despite his slippage.
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