African american polite/Arrogant boxers.

[Calilloyd]

Drawing Power is Drawing Power, unless you can take a poll and unless you can grade that poll, the only way to tell someones fanbase is to judge them by their PPV buyrate in most instances.

You cant truely know a fanbase beyond that. Weather it was fans or non fans who order a PPV with a high buyrate, how can you know who is who?

Did you think the marquez PPV would do 1 million before the fight?

NO, You didint. Did marquez ever come close to 1million before the mayweather fight?

NO he didint.

Did mayweather? yes.

How do we know who was going for mayweather and who wasnt?

We dont. The distinction between who is a fan of who and who isnt, who the *** knows.

Also, you talking about "roy jones has the biggest fanbase among african americans" LMAO. First of all, and ill say this without a doubt, Mayweather is a MUCH bigger name than jones ever was, because Jones even in his prime as superman, never drew like mayweather did, on PPV or in the mainstream.

Second of all, i am black, i am telling you right now, mayweather and judah are the two most popular fighters among blacks,with mosley probably a distant third. In the hood, those two names resonate.

Basically to me, having a fanbase means ****all when in reality, what matters are numbers. Numbers dictate that mayweather does well on PPV. With no real way to distinguish who is a fan and who isnt, you have to assume he draws based on the numbers. But to argue who has a fanbase and trying to divert it to some strawman like "WELL MAYWEATHER DOESNT HAVE A FANBASE"

Miguel Cotto has a fanbase, yet on average, only had 2 good PPVs out of close to the 10 he was on. Drawing power is what matters in this sport. Fanbases vary, but drawing power is what matters more than anything.

Even arturo gatti who had a tremendous fanbase, almost never was on PPV, yet never drew like floyd on PPV and never made the money floyd made.


What im trying to tell you is that people like you are what make floyd who he is. Youre childish avatar and youre daily discussion, along with the rest of you "fans" help him.


And im still disgusted that you pac fans would even have that racist ass avatar, that **** is disgusting IMO. I dont mind any other avatar, but that KFC **** is a ****ing shame. I dont care what the message is supposed to be, putting a black american on the KFC logo is unacceptable, period.

Excellent post which means you won't get a response.

[MonsieurGeorges]

Mosley, Paul Williams, Bradley all considered to have exciting style and polite personality = No fanbase or Not PPV relevant, Mayweather who is obnoxious, Arrogant, Rude = Great fanbase (Hugger+Haters), PPV magnet!!!


WTF????

Walker Smith Jr. was a polite African-American boxer and he was the greatest of all time

[El Jesus]

Walker Smith Jr. was a polite African-American boxer and he was the greatest of all time

that wasnt until he left his prime, during his prime he was a ****ing jerk, very arrogant and very difficult to negotiate with.

[El Jesus]

Yeah i want to know too, What the story or the big deal about Mayweather's picture with the KFC avatar?? How is it offensive or rascial???

In the united states, black people eating and consuming fried chicken is akin to racial stereotypes that suggest that we eat it and love it and would do anything to get it. Images of us eating fried chicken, eating watermelon and drinking kool aid were often used to demean blacks in america and reflect an image of ignorance and mindless consumption of a specific type of food.

Using an image of floyd mayweather as some sort of spokesman for fried chicken is without a doubt weather intentional or not, a supported notion of this stereotype.

the image has reached other urban/hip hop related messageboards and the response isnt exactly heartwarming. Thats just not a good image to use at all.

[jkaisen41]

In the united states, black people eating and consuming fried chicken is akin to racial stereotypes that suggest that we eat it and love it and would do anything to get it. Images of us eating fried chicken, eating watermelon and drinking kool aid were often used to demean blacks in america and reflect an image of ignorance and mindless consumption of a specific type of food.

Using an image of floyd mayweather as some sort of spokesman for fried chicken is without a doubt weather intentional or not, a supported notion of this stereotype.

the image has reached other urban/hip hop related messageboards and the response isnt exactly heartwarming. Thats just not a good image to use at all.

Yeah, I'm not black but I always asked myself because I knew how blacks get sterotyped with chicken if it ain't offensive to them. But nobody really complained so I ain't said something.

These Pac-fans always carry themselves that they are the thinkers... use logic and are respectful... even though I believe that the guy who started it didn't mean it in a wrong matter... you simply have to use your brain and think about some things... I had a heated talk here as well with someone who quoted Goebbels... we talked it out and everything is alright now...

Even though it is only internet and these guys would never trust themselves to open their mouth if they would stand in front of a guy... still I don't know why it is so hard for them so see... that what they do could be offensive towards some ppl who are involved with things like that (Chicken-blacks in my case it was German or ***s-Goebbels)

''Everyone has a brain - the art is to use it''

[Larrysbird]

Mosley, Paul Williams, Bradley all considered to have exciting style and polite personality

They were never as good and as exciting as Sugar Ray was once before, so imo in order for them to be a top PPV material like Floyd is, they needed to be some kind of a bad guy persona in the ring not necessarily outside. At the end of the day people just wanted to be extremely excited to watch you fight and get them your praise. Tyson for example.