Floyd is magic in the ring--manny stands no chance

[pbftxrs316]

castillo gave him fits with power and pressure, de la hoya did with a jab, hatton gave him trouble without really even throwing anything but himself in front of him. judah gave him serious fits with some power fast hands and a southpaw stane, and judhs hands are not even as quick as floyds. see the thing about manny is he does all this and more, floyds magic of course but unless youve been under a rock youd know so is manny. this dudes not gonna jump in front of floyd like you so wish he would, nah hes gonna punch his ass off. if manny does anything well its punch. hes not gonna wait for floyd, trust. floyds in deep ****, he can block 10, hell ill give him 20, but as soon as manny lands one..you better believe floyd hide, and manny will overwhelm him. floyds real slick but the man cant crack an egg. this will be history, karma will catch up with the pretty boy. pacquiao will take this, believe it.
arguments can be made allll day but the 2 will fight the 2 will try their hardest, only one will win.

this is a fair argument---and judah's hands are faster than floyd's--it's floyd's timing that seperate him from judah, oscar, hatton, and pac---manny is not a btter "boxer" than judah--and i will even say judah's left hand is more powerful than pac's--pac just swarms you and overwhelms you with it--judah is actually a boxer and he timed floyd with it a couple of times, i'll give him that, but floyd walked him down, and zab is bigger than pac---and zab only won at the most 3 rounds against floyd--i appreciate this arguement though---oscar won no more than 4 rounds against floyd--and his jab did land when he threw it--but why did he stop throwing it? you see, oscar's reach is longer than pac's...and floyd should have won that fight by ud, not sd....as faras hatton goes, he didn't give floyd fits, it only looked that way to people because he ket swarming floyd and making into a dog fight--but floyd landed on hatton at will and could have got him out of there imo in round 4, when he opened up on him---floyd carried that fight and hatton was gone in round 8--but managed to survived--kudos to hatton--this was a bad example on your part--but whatever--floyd manhandled hatton throughout the fight and beat hatton at his own game--that's a great gift he has...floyd dictated the fight in all of those fights--you pinpointed out key things that they did to give floyd fits, and manny will study these tapes with roach to try to beat floyd---but he has to realize something about floyd--floyd has a 6th sense--he sees punches from different angles and although he has been stunned before, rarely does this happen and when it happens,he has tied people up, moved and caught his composure and has came back to dominate that round and the rest of the fight due to the fact that he adjusts to his oppnents--it doesn't really take him 3 rounds to adjust--he just chooses to adjust in 3 rounds---i see this fight as a total wipeout for floyd--because manny's aggression will turn on him--while he's getting countered by a guy--even if he doesn't counter with combinations like juan did---floyd stays on his toes and that's why counters are just as effective if not more because he'll move and hit you again....gets out of your radar and hits you again while looking at your face--he'll hit you to the body---i'm telling you now--floyd is a complete fighter--manny is not---floyd will stop manny in 8 rounds or less....

[fdotorres]

man you brought up a fight from 8 years ago...i mentioned a fight from LAST YEAR!!!

and you are the one who is trying to compare the lightweight Mayweather to the WW/JMW Mayweather so YOUR argument is the one that is NULL......

the LW floyd was more dominant against better opposition than the current one. in any case, i was helping him

btw, nice job of disregarding everything else that i posted

[pbftxrs316]

guide through what? sayign that the #1 p4p fighter has "no chance" in a fight? that alone proves that you're just an ignorant ****

any guy in shape, with skills, and with 2 arms has a chance. castillo proved that when he outlanded floyd by 107 punches

you see---that's my point--you still don't get it---you're unbelievable man---and what's with this ignorant **** thing....you still haven't told me why pac will beat floyd--besides putting castillio beat him, and manny is better--that is such lame nonsense kid---a guy in shape and has 2 arms has a chance? well, sorry to tell you this--boxing is fought with fists, not arms--wrong sport--this isn't wrestling---but if youmean, manny will grab floyd to keep himself up--then i see your point---and enough with your little numbers on the castillio fight--i get it---castillio landed 107 punches more on floyd than floyd did on him--happy now? manny will lose via 8th round tko or less---and he may not even beat the count---we'll see...

[pbftxrs316]

Meaning of the title? "Manny stands no chance"? Come on dude, how can you not expect people to go against you?

Your like a ridiculously devoted missionary on a land filled with atheists and common reason

It's ok, Mr. Grumpy. Everyone's entitled. No need to get defensive...

i do expect people to go against me but in a logical way---i can see if i put that title in--and didn't make a post as to why i put it in--but i gave a logical assessment as to why i put that in--and i got responses like castillio beat floyd and manny is better---i will bump this thread come march 14th, what's the point of this thread---cheerleading?(when that dumbass has a pic of manny in his sig...****ing knucklehead.lmao), and now this bull**** about me being grump and a missionary, and all that other bull**** you posted---why not---and read carefully kiddo...why not just break the fight down as to why manny stands a chance?ummmmmmmm. is it that hard---do you guys actually agree with me that he doesn't and are too prideful to admit it? what's the reason kids? just let loose boys and girls---it seems as if me and easy work get it---and a couple others--but the pacfans---however old they are--i won't go look for their ages like another poster did to me---can't come together and as a group make a logcal assessment and reasoning as to why manny stands a chance-----man oh man....easy work---i'm trying homey--they ain't getting it...

[pbftxrs316]

the LW floyd was more dominant against better opposition than the current one. in any case, i was helping him

btw, nice job of disregarding everything else that i posted

helping him? helping me? man--you can't even help yourself to actually break a fight down....you're kidding yourself man...

[them_apples]

i can tell you all now that manny is way in over his head fighting floyd---it's not a fair fight--floyd is too crafty in the ring---

i can look at how they train and figure this out---for one--the way floyd hits the pads with roger already shows me that he's a much sharper puncher than manny--so manny's power punches won't matter---people like to say roger does all of the work on the mitts and floyd just taps them--and those people only prove how dumb they are whenit comes to this sport---manny hits hard right? but his punch placement only recently has improved--of course against fighters who stand straight up and are flatfooted---ala cotto and hatton and oscar---floyd's timing, accuracy, and punch placement is so much better than manny's--it's not even funny---the way floyd positions himself in his stance and even how he holds up his hands right before he avoids a punch and counters or throws a punch is a thing of beauty---he is too slck for manny---

don't get me wrong--manny is great at what he does in the ring--but floyd is too complex for this guy---floyd throws sharp punches when he feints, fights off the ropes, moves backwards, dips and counters, and etc--meaning he doesn't look sloppy and off balance--great leverage--movement, upperbody positioning--manny is good off the front foot when he bounces and moves around after he hits you---but only against fighters who don't move---watch how manny changes his style and throws less punches against floyd who will dictate manny's tempo--thus dictating the whole fight en route to a 8th round stoppage or earlier stoppage---

floyd controls his punches better than manny does--which is why he can potshot and still dominate you--while you tire yourself out throwing so many punches and missing and overwhelming yourself---manny will limit his punch output--not tothrow floyd off---but because floyd will make manny lose confidence in himself once he realizes he isn't landing effectively against floyd---he's looking sloppy---balance is off--he getting countered from every angle--he's cut up and bruised---i mean this is only a few things that floyd will do to manny--

manny can get floyd on the ropes--and it still won't help him--because flod knows how to land punches in between his opponent's combos and manny isn't that good against counterpunchers--and floyd will not only block most of manny's punches but land on him in the process---its so obvious--this fight is predetermined---it's floyd's fight to lose, not manny's---it's funny--manny is the champion--yet floyd is the betting favorite---like he was against all of the other champions he's ever fought--that's how good he is---floyd will blow manny's high when they fight---he will snap manny back to reality and then bring on shane or berto---i can't wait...

Manny is very awkward and unorthodox. Treating Manny as just a tough hard hitting brawler would be a huge mistake. Manny might have trouble with Floyds reach and agility, but its still a hard fight to pick. Floyd only throws punches when hes in position, Manny is never in position for him to throw.

Still, not sure who I pick. Floyd might take this is he runs. If he lies on the ropes and trades at any point, he's done.

[pbftxrs316]

man you brought up a fight from 8 years ago...i mentioned a fight from LAST YEAR!!!

and you are the one who is trying to compare the lightweight Mayweather to the WW/JMW Mayweather so YOUR argument is the one that is NULL......

and made a claim that manny is better than castillio---typical uneducated fan who uses that ****--then, instead of breaking their styles down, he goes with this argument--it's magnificent easy---what else do we have to prove--pacfans are shooting theirselves in the foot---

if he was going to make a fair comparison--he would have said--castillio cut th ring off on floyd and mac does this also----or maybe pac overwhelms fighters with punches from so many angles and bounces around a lot and hasa good chin, and has amazing stamina--and he's a southpaw and southpaws had trouble floyd in the past and stunned him---then he could've got a better argument from us--but he didn't...then he compares a right handed fighter in castillio to a southpaw in manny--i mean, come on---easy--i'm done man--you have him....

[pbftxrs316]

Manny is very awkward and unorthodox. Treating Manny as just a tough hard hitting brawler would be a huge mistake. Manny might have trouble with Floyds reach and agility, but its still a hard fight to pick. Floyd only throws punches when hes in position, Manny is never in position for him to throw.

Still, not sure who I pick. Floyd might take this is he runs. If he lies on the ropes and trades at any point, he's done.

thank you--you actually broke it down--thank you--although i disagree and i will explain more a little later after i eat--sorry man--i worked up an apetite.lol...

[Gutz]

LOL @ this Thread..

and Floyd fans say Pac fans know nothing about boxing..

Saying " Floyd will beat Pac EASY"


This is going to be his hardest fight ever.. Even if he does win.





lol @ TS calling people kid when he only 23..





PS .. My opinion I got Pac by winning by KO

[sycomantz]

look at all the *******s go...i see alot of excuses come the 14th