Floyd is magic in the ring--manny stands no chance

[GameBullDawg]

for those who say floyd is cherry picking in that case due to my thread---stop that right now---it's pointless to try to twist up my logic--because there is no fighter in boxing from 154 on dow that will beat mayweather---shane is no different---paul williams is no different---berto--margarito--cotto--etc---none of those guys would beat floyd--and it cracks me up---you guys will find an excuse after manny gets dominated to take away's floyd's win---but ihave to make posts like these to educate you fools on this forum---because you guys believe in these fighters but think with your heart--not your minds---so manny is hot right now right? so you guys give him a chance to knock floyd out and say he will beat floyd's ass---when in reality--i know the what will happen--you don't have to like my thread or posts op opinions--i don't care--but when you respond with stuff like then floyd is cherry picking and ducking real threats, instead of arguing why you feel manny will beat him, the you only further my point of fans thinking with their hearts, not their minds---i don't see any fighter beating floyd--and i have said this for years and years--while you guckers criticizehis every mover---i break his moves in the ring down and make sense of them---you guys crack me up with your so called knowledge of the sport--i know this sport like the back of my hand--and i know floyd will wipe manny out(don't blame me--you guys overrate him), then the winner of mosley/berto, then if paul williams looks good in his next couple of fights and makes a name for himself--floyd will fight and beat him also---floyd is the only complete fighter out of all these guys---he just has that gift---it's a testament to his skillset---we haven't even seen him elevate his game yet---like he did at 140--when all of these ******* ducked him--and waited until he slowed down to start calling him out--mosley anyone? anyway, pac will be dominated like i have been sayiing from the jump....easy fight for floyd---

LOL, yu 23 mang , yu just came outcha yellow diapers mang , no nothing mang, LOL

[GameBullDawg]

the general consensus is that he lost the first fight

here's my oops:

The Judge’s scores read as follows:

John Keane of England ?115-111 for Mayweather
Jerry Roth of Nevada- 115-111 for Mayweather
Anek Hongtongkam of Thailand-116-111 for Mayweather

Harold Lederman of HBO had it-115-111 for Castillo.

All the announcers, including Foreman had Castillo ahead.

My score was 116-111 for Castillo.

The Punch Stats:

Castillo Mayweather

203 Thrown 157
506 Landed 448

40% Percentage 35%

Power Punching Stats:

Castillo Mayweather

173 Landed 66
377 Thrown 151

46% Percentage 44%

Castillo was flat out ROBBED !!!

[fdotorres]

Castillo was flat out ROBBED !!!

no, because a 107 power punch difference (with a better connect % too) doesn't mean anything!

lol, floyd connected literally 5.5 power punches per round in that fight, yet some people are convinced that he clearly won

[Ether]

Props to the Thread starter. PBF win by UD, though.

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no, because a 107 power punch difference (with a better connect % too) doesn't mean anything!

lol, floyd connected literally 5.5 power punches per round in that fight, yet some people are convinced that he clearly won

That poster conveniently left out the jab category stats, in which Floyd had the clear edge in. Floyd also landed the cleaner punches in that fight.

Dude, Castillo got outboxed. The reason why people might think Castillo was robbed is only because he did better than what was expected of him.

[fdotorres]

That poster conveniently left out the jab category stats, in which Floyd had the clear edge in. Floyd also landed the cleaner punches in that fight.

Dude, Castillo got outboxed. The reason why people might think Castillo was robbed is only because he did better than what was expected of him.

castillo landed 30 jabs. floyd landed 91

normally, jabs are much, much less impressive punches in everyone's eyes, including the judges. lets suppose they look equally good in everybody's eyes:

floyd outlanded castillo by 61 jabs (91-30), while castillo outlanded floyd by 107 power punches (173-66). in total punches, castillo outlanded floyd by 47 punches

tell me how landing 47 less punches (13% less) and 107 less power punches (45% less) is called outboxing someone

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castillo landed 30 jabs. floyd landed 91

normally, jabs are much, much less impressive punches in everyone's eyes, including the judges. lets suppose they look equally good in everybody's eyes:

floyd outlanded castillo by 61 jabs (91-30), while castillo outlanded floyd by 107 power punches (173-66). in total punches, castillo outlanded floyd by 47 punches

tell me how landing 47 less punches (13% less) and 107 less power punches (45% less) is called outboxing someone

Low blows, punches on the break, and hitting the other fighter in the hips while the ref isn't looking isn't clean punching.

Not knocking on Castillo, but that was the style he felt would give him the win, and that is where the majority of his "power punch" stats came from.

[fdotorres]

Low blows, punches on the break, and hitting the other fighter in the hips while the ref isn't looking isn't clean punching.

Not knocking on Castillo, but that was the style he felt would give him the win, and that is where the majority of his "power punch" stats came from.

oh, so he fights as dirty as floyd did in that fight? that's acceptable, unless you want to tell me that floyd's dirty blows weren't counted by compubox (they did on the hatton fight at least)

a lol @ you saying that the majority of castillos 173 power punch connects were low blows and rabbit punches

[fcastro1]

only ****** *****s would think pac would fight floyd the way he fought cotto. pac has to use tight defence lots of movement cut of the ring and quick flurries, floyd will be flapping trying to defend each punch becaue he is a defence first type fighter and will lose by ud, or late ko when he realises he is down and has to exchange.

[Foodie One]

i can tell you all now that manny is way in over his head fighting floyd---it's not a fair fight--floyd is too crafty in the ring---

i can look at how they train and figure this out---for one--the way floyd hits the pads with roger already shows me that he's a much sharper puncher than manny--so manny's power punches won't matter---people like to say roger does all of the work on the mitts and floyd just taps them--and those people only prove how dumb they are whenit comes to this sport---manny hits hard right? but his punch placement only recently has improved--of course against fighters who stand straight up and are flatfooted---ala cotto and hatton and oscar---floyd's timing, accuracy, and punch placement is so much better than manny's--it's not even funny---the way floyd positions himself in his stance and even how he holds up his hands right before he avoids a punch and counters or throws a punch is a thing of beauty---he is too slck for manny---

don't get me wrong--manny is great at what he does in the ring--but floyd is too complex for this guy---floyd throws sharp punches when he feints, fights off the ropes, moves backwards, dips and counters, and etc--meaning he doesn't look sloppy and off balance--great leverage--movement, upperbody positioning--manny is good off the front foot when he bounces and moves around after he hits you---but only against fighters who don't move---watch how manny changes his style and throws less punches against floyd who will dictate manny's tempo--thus dictating the whole fight en route to a 8th round stoppage or earlier stoppage---

floyd controls his punches better than manny does--which is why he can potshot and still dominate you--while you tire yourself out throwing so many punches and missing and overwhelming yourself---manny will limit his punch output--not tothrow floyd off---but because floyd will make manny lose confidence in himself once he realizes he isn't landing effectively against floyd---he's looking sloppy---balance is off--he getting countered from every angle--he's cut up and bruised---i mean this is only a few things that floyd will do to manny--

manny can get floyd on the ropes--and it still won't help him--because flod knows how to land punches in between his opponent's combos and manny isn't that good against counterpunchers--and floyd will not only block most of manny's punches but land on him in the process---its so obvious--this fight is predetermined---it's floyd's fight to lose, not manny's---it's funny--manny is the champion--yet floyd is the betting favorite---like he was against all of the other champions he's ever fought--that's how good he is---floyd will blow manny's high when they fight---he will snap manny back to reality and then bring on shane or berto---i can't wait...

Pretty Boy is taking the Pacman way too lightly for this fight and will pay the consequences dearly by receiving the "Fistic-Bombardment" of his life. Little does he know, Team Pacquiao will prepare a "War Plan" that will devastate his highly touted "Shoulder-Roll" defense. Master Trainer Roach's plan to destroy Floyd's body will come to fruition as the Pacman will unleash his greatest barrage of punches the likes of which Pretty Boy has never seen. Poor Floyd is gonna be reminded of his arrogance in dissing the Pacman as he reels from the solid body and head blows that will be inflicted upon him by the Pacman. JAT