How well would gervonta Davis have done 20 years ago?

[HisExcellency]

This logic is so ****** lmfao then why bother enforcing it? Cause he doesn't have the confidence or skill to beat either guy without it and he knows it

3 separate weight classes and beat nobody of note and still be a one division world champ

Because Tank is a MIDGET whereas Barrios is 6ft and should've been fighting in a higher weight class instead of being a weight bully at 140lbs. Therefore, giving him a rehydration clause was perfectly reasonable plus none of this changes the fact that Tank beat him decisively and was leading on all 3 scorecards before the eventual stoppage. Therefore, a few extra pounds wouldn't have made the SLIGHTEST bit of difference to the eventual fight outcome (ditto for Cryan).

You can say whatever you like but at the end of the day Tank is a LEGITIMATE two-weight world champion who has stopped 28 of the 30 men he's fought in 3 different weight classes including plenty of champions and top contenders.

That's why Ring m@gazine currently has him ranked #8 in the P4P rankings but keep hating!

[HisExcellency]

He's not a 3 division champion.

His only real titles came at 130. He was content with secondary titles at 135 and 140, and never fought the real WBA champ at either weight; his current title is an email title, having never beaten any of Loma, Teo, Kambosos, or Haney who actually held the real deal. Nor did he fight Taylor at 140, instead opting to take on Barrios. His other titles came in vacant bouts vs the likes of Yuriorkis Gamboa (who fought the entire fight with a torn Achilles) and Jesus Cuellar. Anyone who thinks he is a 3 division world champion is either a casual or deluded, because he is not. He's two division at best, if you dignify his current email title as the real title.

Fine...he's a legitimate two-weight world champion as he currently holds the full WBA 140lb title and previously held the IBF Super Featherweight strap. Anyhow, even though each fight is unique and styles make fights, given how easily he dispatched of Cryan who DOMINATED Haney who in turn beat Loma and Kambosos (twice), I don't think it would be a stretch to say that Tank would probably STOP Haney and beat Loma (especially since he's old) whereas the Kambosos fight wouldn't even be competitive.

Ring m@gazine currently has him ranked as the 8th best fighter in the WORLD for a reason!

[crimsonfalcon07]

Fine...he's a legitimate two-weight world champion as he currently holds the full WBA 140lb title and previously held the IBF Super Featherweight strap. Anyhow, even though each fight is unique and styles make fights, given how easily he dispatched of Cryan who DOMINATED Haney who in turn beat Loma and Kambosos (twice), I don't think it would be a stretch to say that Tank would probably STOP Haney and beat Loma (especially since he's old) whereas the Kambosos fight wouldn't even be competitive.

Ring m@gazine currently has him ranked as the 8th best fighter in the WORLD for a reason!

He doesn't hold the full WBA title at 140, or any weight, for that matter. He is simply the only current WBA titlist at 135 since the Super champ vacated. He is not the WBA super champ, and hasn't been at any weight except 130.

The fact that you don't understand the many many asterisks over putting hydration clauses on his opponents, especially those "top wins" you are talking about, and then proceed to offer a hypocritical triangle theory, rather than acknowledge the fact that he hasn't fought any of those fighters, and in fact actively avoided them while they were competing in his division should tell you everything. There's so many inconsistencies. You can't say Ryan beat Haney and Haney beat Loma in the same sentence. Either official results are the most important, in which case Ryan didn't beat Haney, or they're not, in which case Loma got robbed. You have him beating a weight drained Ryan who was on a rehydration clause, but not acknowledging that Ryan was on PEDs for his fight vs Haney and missed weight to boot. Really says everything.

The facts are that he has avoided real top competition his whole career. If you're buying into his cherry picked secondary belt career, that tells us exactly where you stand. We will likely never know how good he actually was because he plans on retirement after this year, without ever fighting the top guys in his weight class when they were at the top of their game.

[Stuntman Mike]

Because Tank is a MIDGET whereas Barrios is 6ft and should've been fighting in a higher weight class instead of being a weight bully at 140lbs. Therefore, giving him a rehydration clause was perfectly reasonable plus none of this changes the fact that Tank beat him decisively and was leading on all 3 scorecards before the eventual stoppage. Therefore, a few extra pounds wouldn't have made the SLIGHTEST bit of difference to the eventual fight outcome (ditto for Cryan).

You can say whatever you like but at the end of the day Tank is a LEGITIMATE two-weight world champion who has stopped 28 of the 30 men he's fought in 3 different weight classes including plenty of champions and top contenders.

That's why Ring m@gazine currently has him ranked #8 in the P4P rankings but keep hating!

Are you tanks mother?? You keep saying "say whatever you like" but its you defending an obvious ducker,real fans dont count weight drained wins as much like ward against dawson.

weight drained contracts mean **** all unless the drained fighter wins but other way around and you just dont get the credit im afraid and nor should they

[BirdSong]

I don't think it would be a stretch to say that Tank would probably

beat everybody in the entire history of the sport lol all these hyped guys with their 0 do this until they lose fans never learn though

[techliam]

He would have been a solid prospect 20 years ago also

[HisExcellency]

He doesn't hold the full WBA title at 140, or any weight, for that matter. He is simply the only current WBA titlist at 135 since the Super champ vacated. He is not the WBA super champ, and hasn't been at any weight except 130.

The fact that you don't understand the many many asterisks over putting hydration clauses on his opponents, especially those "top wins" you are talking about, and then proceed to offer a hypocritical triangle theory, rather than acknowledge the fact that he hasn't fought any of those fighters, and in fact actively avoided them while they were competing in his division should tell you everything. There's so many inconsistencies. You can't say Ryan beat Haney and Haney beat Loma in the same sentence. Either official results are the most important, in which case Ryan didn't beat Haney, or they're not, in which case Loma got robbed. You have him beating a weight drained Ryan who was on a rehydration clause, but not acknowledging that Ryan was on PEDs for his fight vs Haney and missed weight to boot. Really says everything.

The facts are that he has avoided real top competition his whole career. If you're buying into his cherry picked secondary belt career, that tells us exactly where you stand. We will likely never know how good he actually was because he plans on retirement after this year, without ever fighting the top guys in his weight class when they were at the top of their game.

Oops my bad I meant that he currently holds the WBA belt @ 135lbs NOT 140lbs.

As for the rest of your post, it's pure CONJECTURE and proof that you dislike Tank as you haven't given him an ounce of credit for anything and are constantly downplaying his achievements. In comparison, I take a more objective view and ADMIT that the only thing missing from his resume is the lack of superfights.

Re Garcia, I believe that Tank only had ONE fight @140lbs against Barrios before returning to Lightweight. He also hasn't fought at that weight class since so is now effectively a Lightweight and had every right to insist on a catchweight and hydration clause against the much bigger Garcia (who was ALSO fighting at Lightweight for the vast majority of his career). Anyhow, even if there wasn't a hydration clause, do you REALLY believe that Garcia would've won the fight?

As for Tank ducking Lomachenko & Haney, it's not as straightforward as you'd like to believe as both of those guys were signed to Top Rank at the time whereas Tank is a PBC fighter. Ditto for Teofimo & Kambosos. Also, I think that Haney BEAT Lomachenko fair and square in a very close fight.

Anyhow, none of this changes the fact that Tank is currently ranked as the 8th best fighter in the WORLD by Ring after stopping 28 out of 30 opponents in 3 separate weight classes including numerous champions and top contenders

[HisExcellency]

Are you tanks mother?? You keep saying "say whatever you like" but its you defending an obvious ducker,real fans dont count weight drained wins as much like ward against dawson.

weight drained contracts mean **** all unless the drained fighter wins but other way around and you just dont get the credit im afraid and nor should they

Tank only had ONE fight at Super Lightweight (against Barrios) so is effectively a Lightweight and had every right to insist on a catchweight and hydration clause in order to fight the much bigger Garcia (who'd ALSO been fighting at Lightweight for most of his career). Anyway, even if you discount this victory, he's still stopped 27 of the 29 other opponents he's ever shared the ring with (26 of 28 excluding Barrios) which speaks for itself. Pure DOMINATION!

[BirdSong]

Pure DOMINATION!

slurper lol

[crimsonfalcon07]

Oops my bad I meant that he currently holds the WBA belt @ 135lbs NOT 140lbs.

As for the rest of your post, it's pure CONJECTURE and proof that you dislike Tank as you haven't given him an ounce of credit for anything and are constantly downplaying his achievements. In comparison, I take a more objective view and ADMIT that the only thing missing from his resume is the lack of superfights.

Re Garcia, I believe that Tank only had ONE fight @140lbs against Barrios before returning to Lightweight. He also hasn't fought at that weight class since so is now effectively a Lightweight and had every right to insist on a catchweight and hydration clause against the much bigger Garcia (who was ALSO fighting at Lightweight for the vast majority of his career). Anyhow, even if there wasn't a hydration clause, do you REALLY believe that Garcia would've won the fight?

As for Tank ducking Lomachenko & Haney, it's not as straightforward as you'd like to believe as both of those guys were signed to Top Rank at the time whereas Tank is a PBC fighter. Ditto for Teofimo & Kambosos. Also, I think that Haney BEAT Lomachenko fair and square in a very close fight.

Anyhow, none of this changes the fact that Tank is currently ranked as the 8th best fighter in the WORLD by Ring after stopping 28 out of 30 opponents in 3 separate weight classes including numerous champions and top contenders

Should tell you something that you're the only one defending his "achievements". I've given him credit in the past for being clear that he's just in it for the money. He's done well for himself creating hype that he's some sort of a monster when he's not got the resume to actually prove it, and getting people like you to buy into it. But he's not a 3 division, or, realistically a two division champion.

Do you even hear yourself? "The lack of resume is the only thing lacking from his resume!!"

If you don't fight top competition, your resume doesn't say anything. It's easy to show out when you're not taking the step up, and he has yet to fight the top guys. He never fought Loma when Loma was #1. Literally got "he's not ready for that yet" for 5 years. You can make all the triangle theories you want, but he didn't fight the champs in his division, except at 130, and Santa Cruz was a division lower. It's FACT that he's only ever won legit titles at 130, and that he's never fought a real world champion in his own weight division outside of 130. No unifications, no fights without A-side clauses. None. And he'll retire without ever fighting a top guy. He's not even fighting Berinchyk. Didn't fight the low hanging fruit of Kambosos, let alone Shakur, Loma, Haney, Teo, Taylor. Didn't fight Commey. That's straight facts. Zero champions fought in his own division since moving up from 130, and he'll retire with that being true. You can get in your feelings about it, but that's fact. He's a year away from retirement, and we still have to talk about him relative to "de eye test doe" because he's given us zero fights against the top guys in the division.