How well would gervonta Davis have done 20 years ago?

[El_Mero]

In the same era as : pbfm, Zab, Viv Harris, maussa, cotto, Hatton, tszyu, Gianluca bronco, Arturo Gatti, chop chop Corley, Castillo, casamayor, Juan Diaz, Nate Campbell, acelino Freitas, Julio Diaz, and Henry Brussels?

I'm asking because he rarely fights nowadays, how well would he have done back when it was murderers row from lw to jr welter weight?

He wouldn't fight em lol

[PRvazquez]

Tank is elite stop the propaganda.

[HisExcellency]

Should tell you something that you're the only one defending his "achievements". I've given him credit in the past for being clear that he's just in it for the money. He's done well for himself creating hype that he's some sort of a monster when he's not got the resume to actually prove it, and getting people like you to buy into it. But he's not a 3 division, or, realistically a two division champion.

Do you even hear yourself? "The lack of resume is the only thing lacking from his resume!!"

If you don't fight top competition, your resume doesn't say anything. It's easy to show out when you're not taking the step up, and he has yet to fight the top guys. He never fought Loma when Loma was #1. Literally got "he's not ready for that yet" for 5 years. You can make all the triangle theories you want, but he didn't fight the champs in his division, except at 130, and Santa Cruz was a division lower. It's FACT that he's only ever won legit titles at 130, and that he's never fought a real world champion in his own weight division outside of 130. No unifications, no fights without A-side clauses. None. And he'll retire without ever fighting a top guy. He's not even fighting Berinchyk. Didn't fight the low hanging fruit of Kambosos, let alone Shakur, Loma, Haney, Teo, Taylor. Didn't fight Commey. That's straight facts. Zero champions fought in his own division since moving up from 130, and he'll retire with that being true. You can get in your feelings about it, but that's fact. He's a year away from retirement, and we still have to talk about him relative to "de eye test doe" because he's given us zero fights against the top guys in the division.

Lol what part of Shakur, Loma, Haney, Teo, Taylor & Kambosos were ALL signed to TOP RANK whereas Tank was a PBC/Mayweather fighter don’t you understand? Therefore, it’s NOT as straightforward as you’d like to believe. In fact, another top fighter in Tank’s position (Spence) had to wait for Crawford to LEAVE Top Rank before the fight could be made which says everything.

However, if the sparring footage between Tank-Haney & Tank-Teo is anything to go by, I don’t think it’d be a stretch to say that Tank WHOOPS Devin and most likely beats Teofimo.

Inb4 “but but but sparring isn’t real fighting!’

[ODLH Chicano Goat]

Woah woah we're getting ahead of ourselves here. Let's wait for the result of the Lamont Roach fight before answering this question.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Lol what part of Shakur, Loma, Haney, Teo, Taylor & Kambosos were ALL signed to TOP RANK whereas Tank was a PBC/Mayweather fighter don’t you understand? Therefore, it’s NOT as straightforward as you’d like to believe. In fact, another top fighter in Tank’s position (Spence) had to wait for Crawford to LEAVE Top Rank before the fight could be made which says everything.

However, if the sparring footage between Tank-Haney & Tank-Teo is anything to go by, I don’t think it’d be a stretch to say that Tank WHOOPS Devin and most likely beats Teofimo.

Inb4 “but but but sparring isn’t real fighting!’

You get more laughable every time. Acting like PBC fighters are good about unifications? Every one of those fighters you named fought other top guys in their division at Top Rank, unlike Tank.

Also, Kambosos was with DiBella, and only signed a co-promotional with Top Rank. Which Tank could have also done, if PBC was in the way. He's a free agent now, and still won't make the fights. Haney was with Matchroom.

Spence? You can't possibly be that dumb. Bro literally came up with "the other side of the street" to duck Crawford, and we all saw why he was ducking when he finally ran out of excuses and had to fight the man. The mental gymnastics you go through are, honestly, spectacular.

You shouldn't even talk about sparring vs fighting because it's abundantly clear you've done neither.

I can't wait to see what you'll come up with next. Just wow. SMH.

[djtmal]

Who knows. He's not fighting guys who can hit him back

[HisExcellency]

You get more laughable every time. Acting like PBC fighters are good about unifications? Every one of those fighters you named fought other top guys in their division at Top Rank, unlike Tank.

Also, Kambosos was with DiBella, and only signed a co-promotional with Top Rank. Which Tank could have also done, if PBC was in the way. He's a free agent now, and still won't make the fights. Haney was with Matchroom.

Spence? You can't possibly be that dumb. Bro literally came up with "the other side of the street" to duck Crawford, and we all saw why he was ducking when he finally ran out of excuses and had to fight the man. The mental gymnastics you go through are, honestly, spectacular.

You shouldn't even talk about sparring vs fighting because it's abundantly clear you've done neither.

I can't wait to see what you'll come up with next. Just wow. SMH.

LMAO…you specifically asked why Tank hadn’t fought any of the top fighters in his division e.g. Shakur, Teo, Taylor, Loma, Kambosos & Haney and I told you it’s because he’s a PBC fighter whereas they were ALL signed to Top Rank. Therefore, DON’T try to go off on a tangent talking about PBC unifications or Top Rank in-house fights when that’s a completely separate discussion.

Also, Haney was a Top Rank fighter when he was a Lightweight (hence the 2 Kambosos fights) whereas Kambosos himself was co-promoted by Top Rank only AFTER beating Teo for the Lightweight belts. Therefore, it was next to impossible for Tank to fight those guys (or Teo/Taylor/Shakur) due to the promoter rivalry between Top Rank & PBC.

As things currently stand, all of the names you’ve mentioned bar Shakur & Loma have left the Lightweight division where Tank currently fights (he only had ONE fight at Junior Welterweight) plus there’s talk of the Saudis trying to put the superfight with Shakur together.

Also, the fact that you believe Spence was deliberately ducking Crawford and that you DON’T consider Tank a top fighter whereas most boxers, pundits and Ring m@gazine DO says everything about your boxing knowledge.

PS: It’s hilarious how EMOTIONAL you’re getting over discussing a boxer on an internet forum ahahaha!

[crimsonfalcon07]

LMAO…you specifically asked why Tank hadn’t fought any of the top fighters in his division e.g. Shakur, Teo, Taylor, Loma, Kambosos & Haney and I told you it’s because he’s a PBC fighter whereas they were ALL signed to Top Rank. Therefore, DON’T try to go off on a tangent talking about PBC unifications or Top Rank in-house fights when that’s a completely separate discussion.

Also, Haney was a Top Rank fighter when he was a Lightweight (hence the 2 Kambosos fights) whereas Kambosos himself was co-promoted by Top Rank only AFTER beating Teo for the Lightweight belts. Therefore, it was next to impossible for Tank to fight those guys (or Teo/Taylor/Shakur) due to the promoter rivalry between Top Rank & PBC.

As things currently stand, all of the names you’ve mentioned bar Shakur & Loma have left the Lightweight division where Tank currently fights (he only had ONE fight at Junior Welterweight) plus there’s talk of the Saudis trying to put the superfight with Shakur together.

Also, the fact that you believe Spence was deliberately ducking Crawford and that you DON’T consider Tank a top fighter whereas most boxers, pundits and Ring m@gazine DO says everything about your boxing knowledge.

PS: It’s hilarious how EMOTIONAL you’re getting over discussing a boxer on an internet forum ahahaha!

You're funny.

PBC fighters being the most likely to avoid unifications is literally the entire point. That's not a tangent at all. That's as on topic as it gets.

Not to mention, your facts are wildly off. Haney was with Matchroom for the majority of his lightweight career. He only was with Top Rank since 2022. Kambosos signed his co-promotional deal with Top Rank in 2023. Tank has been in lightweight since 2019. He's had plenty of time to fight the aforementioned. And he's been a free agent since the Rolly Romero fight in 2022. So Top Rank has fugh-all to do with it. You're just manufacturing nonsense that's not even factual.

Devin Haney was at lightweight from 2015 to December 2023. That's minimum 4 years to fight him.

Loma was at 130 in 2016 and Tank didn't fight him for those 3 years. He went up in 2018, followed by Tank, who still didn't fight him. Mayweather said Tank wasn't ready for him. He's been ducking Loma for 5+ years.

Teo was lightweight from 2016 to 2022. Plenty of time to fight him.

Etc.

It's literally fact that Tank avoided Loma, just as Spence is on record saying that Crawford was on "the other side of the street" and refusing to make the fight for years. That's the worst possible example for you to use.

And I have never said Tank wasn't a top fighter. I said that he's not fought a top fighter in his own division since he left 130, and that's FACT. I said he's not won a real world title outside of 130, and that is FACT. And I said that he's talking about retiring at the end of the year and wants those fights to be Roach and a drained Ryan Garcia who can't make 140, let alone 135, and that's FACT. I'll give him more benefit of the doubt if he fights Garcia at 147 without rehydration clauses, but as it is, he waited until Garcia couldn't make 135 to fight him at 135. I've been there. You have no idea how draining that is if you've never so much as tried making weight. And you up in here trying to pretend you have ANY boxing knowledge, but you don't even have your facts straight. I've had to correct your errors so many times in this thread that it's downright sad. You don't know who was fighting in what division when, who their promoters are, or were at the time, who was ranked, or even what a real world title is. Tank a 3 division champ? GTFO. You have zero room to be talking about other people's knowledge because yours is absolutely riddled with factual inaccuracies. Which is why you're the ONLY person defending this nonsense. Everyone else knows the truth about Tank and his non existent resume.

Sad thing is, he might actually BE the Truth, but we'll never know because he'll retire without ever really testing himself. But good for him for making bank off of casuals like you. He's been clear he's just in it for the money, and he's been very successful in that regard. Again, thanks to people like you.