Comments Thread For: When Manny 'Pacman' Pacquiao gobbled up the Golden Boy, Oscar De La Hoya

[djtmal]

Of course you would say it’s irrelevant.

Thats because that is the truth.

Only because Manny beat the brakes off Oscar are you trying to push these excuses.

Oscar called the shots in both fights no excuses.

[djtmal]

No it couldn’t have gone either way. Floyd clearly beat him.

Clearly not the same.

It was a pick-em fight at best. He certainly didn't whoop Oscar the way Manny did.

Any other era Floyd wouldn't have done enough to take the belt from the champ.

Now how Manny beat Oscar, THAT's how you administer an azz whooping

[The Big Dunn]

I don't understand why everybody is so negative about this fight and what Manny achieved on that night. I know in the last few years Oscar has given a lot of interviews about his struggles and substance abuse that kind of completely change how that fight could be seen, but I remember at the time when the fight was announced I thought the weight jump was waaaay too much for Pacman and that he could not compete with Oscar at that weight. Of course, once the fight started I had to immediately change my mind.

You have to remember this was not too far away from Oscar's fight with Floyd Mayweather which was incredibly close and which, by the way I thought that Oscar won even though he was a long way from his prime. So going into the fight, I expected Oscar to show up in good condition and destroy Manny.

Come on bro. ODH fought Manny at 147. He hadn’t made that weight in over 6 years.

He fought Floyd at 154 a year before. As you state he wasn’t in his prime. The only judge that gave ODH the fight was his judge- this way it looked like an SD so they could sell the team planned rematch.

That you thought ODH would destroy Manny given the context is bizarre. In fairness to you, a lot of casuals did such that I made a killing betting on Manny.

How is a man not in his prime, going down 7 lbs after 6 years, going to be in good condition such that he was going to beat one of the top 2 p4p boxers in the world?

[The Big Dunn]

It was a pick-em fight at best. He certainly didn't whoop Oscar the way Manny did.

Any other era Floyd wouldn't have done enough to take the belt from the champ.

Now how Manny beat Oscar, THAT's how you administer an azz whooping

No it wasn’t. Only haters think so. Floyd clearly won the fight.

No he did not ko Fishnets because ODH came in at 154 instead of 147. He was clearly drained against Manny. You will not admit it for reasons we all know.

[The Big Dunn]

Thats because that is the truth.

Only because Manny beat the brakes off Oscar are you trying to push these excuses.

Oscar called the shots in both fights no excuses.

What excuses? I get you have a problem telling the truth. We’ve all seen it plenty of times.

Manny beat a 147lb Fishnets. Not the 154lb version Floyd beat. Just like Floyd beat a full 154 Cotto and not a 146 lb Cotto.

You can’t change the truth.

[TintaBoricua]

Oscar was so far removed from his best day’s , that Pacquiao deserves little credit. Not to mention Oscar had to adhere to a CatchWeight . I hate it when boxer’s get credit for beating others past their due by date.

Oscar was drained, yes…but the fight was at the full weight limit of 147. It technically wasn’t a catch weight. Pacquiao used catch weights for Cotto (145 pounds) and Margarito (150 pounds).

Oscar was just past his 147 days, but there wasn’t a catch weight here. It was Freddie Roach (who had trained Oscar the year earlier) who knew Oscar’s weaknesses and capitalized on that with his star pupil.
It was a perfect storm.

[BodyBagz]

Oscar was drained, yes…but the fight was at the full weight limit of 147. It technically wasn’t a catch weight. Pacquiao used catch weights for Cotto (145 pounds) and Margarito (150 pounds).

Oscar was just past his 147 days, but there wasn’t a catch weight here. It was Freddie Roach (who had trained Oscar the year earlier) who knew Oscar’s weaknesses and capitalized on that with his star pupil.
It was a perfect storm.

It's always easier to move up than it is to move down
That's why you rarely see guys moving down to fight some.

RJJ moved up to HW then tried to move back down. It was the beginning of the end for him.

Pac needed DLH to move down but was Gung Ho to fight Margarito north of WW.

Too many issues with Pac fights.

[djtmal]

Manny beat a 147lb Fishnets. Not the 154lb version Floyd beat. Just like Floyd beat a full 154 Cotto and not a 146 lb Cotto.

Manny beat the brakes off Oscar whereas Floyd barely outpointed him. His pops said he thought Oscar won. Same Oscar 12 months apart. No lies told there.

Manny beat the living brakes off Cotto a more prime version of Cotto to boot, whereas Floyd barely outpointed a shopworn version of Cotto. No lies told there as well.

[djtmal]

I don't understand why everybody is so negative about this fight and what Manny achieved on that night. I know in the last few years Oscar has given a lot of interviews about his struggles and substance abuse that kind of completely change how that fight could be seen, but I remember at the time when the fight was announced I thought the weight jump was waaaay too much for Pacman and that he could not compete with Oscar at that weight. Of course, once the fight started I had to immediately change my mind.

You have to remember this was not too far away from Oscar's fight with Floyd Mayweather which was incredibly close and which, by the way I thought that Oscar won even though he was a long way from his prime. So going into the fight, I expected Oscar to show up in good condition and destroy Manny.

Well you know Manny Pacquiao gets a lot of hate from Mayweather pundits on this site.

You are absolutely correct the talk was that Manny would be too small for Oscar, this would get Oscar back on track, Oscar's height and reach would be too much.

[BrankoB]

No it wasn’t. Only haters think so. Floyd clearly won the fight.

No he did not ko Fishnets because ODH came in at 154 instead of 147. He was clearly drained against Manny. You will not admit it for reasons we all know.

I think you need to read your own posts and perhaps re-evaluate who is a hater and who isn't (given that you are calling Oscar Fishnets) and who is extremely biased with an axe to grind.

You are saying only haters think that Oscar won the fight against Floyd even though a few people on this forum have clearly expressed their honest opinion about Oscar winning that fight. It was a split decision with scores that were very, very close. Objectively looking at that situation when the scores are that close in boxing, fans and commentators are evenly divided as to who won the fight and there is no one universal truth or answer that everyone will accept.

You claim to be telling the truth but all that is coming out of your posts that is clear to see is bias and hate.