James Toney vs ?

[champion4ever]

Who would win in a 12 round HEAVYWEIGHT Boxing match against James Toney ?
• Vitali Klitschko
• Wldamir Klitschko
• Anthony Joshua
• Joe Fraizer
• David Tua
• Lennox Lewis
• Tyson Fury
• George Foreman
• Sonny Liston
Who would lose ?
how and why ?

All of the above. Tony was a natural 5’9 counterpunching blown up Middleweight man. With a very low punch volume.

As long as those fighters keep James on the outside by working behind their jabs. Then Tony wouldn’t stand a chance against any of them.

[QueensburyRules]

All of the above. Tony was a natural 5’9 counterpunching blown up Middleweight man. With a very low punch volume.

As long as those fighters keep James on the outside by working behind their jabs. Then Tony wouldn’t stand a chance against any of them.

- - TwoTon is undefeated vs Chicken Buckets...FACT!!!

[PRINCEKOOL]

James Toney is an all-time great fighter, but people must understand? Toney moved up into the Heavyweight Division, because he no longer wanted to make the weight limit in the lower weight classes. James Toney even during interviews, would state 'That he is out of condition at Heavyweight, and none of these fighters are the best boxers he has ever fought'.

Toney would numerous times, during his Heavyweight Campaign 'Make a reference to fighters, such as Mike Mccallum, Michael Nunn and more lower weight class fighters. As being skill for skill more superior to all of the Heavyweight fighters active during his era'.

And James Toney in retrospect was to a certain extent 'Stating a fact of the game'. Toney in the Heavyweight Division was facing bigger fighters in terms of overall mass, but skill for skill and even athletically? He was not competing against better fighters, than all of his nearest competition in the Middle, Super Middle, Light Heavyweight and Cruiserweight Division's.

When past great fighters such as Evander Holyfield and David Haye 'Moved up into the Heavyweight Division. They achieved this feat, by gradually increasing their mass simultaneously while maintaining or increasing their overall conditioning.

Evander Holyfield famously worked with Lee Haney, who was the 8 times Mr Olympia Body Building Champion. David Haye from what I have read, did not really need to body build himself up into a Classical Heavyweight Physique, and this is most likely due to? David Haye competing in the Cruiserweight Division, when the weight limit was moved to 200 pounds. Haye was already a Heavyweight, who was boiling himself to the 200 pound Cruiser weight limit.

Evander Holyfield was competing in the Cruiserweight Division, when the weight limit was set at 190 pounds 'So Holyfield more than Haye, had conditioned himself as a lower weight class fighter'.

Many people when they think of David Haye, may class his fight vs Monte Barrett as his first ever Heavyweight fight 'Monte Barrett vs David Haye, took place on November 15th 2008. Haye at this point in his career, had already became the Lineal and Unified Cruiserweight World Champion'.

David Haye first actual Heavyweight fight, was against a fighter called Tomasz Bonin in 2007, a fight he won by knockout in the first round. And this was only one fight away, from his fight against Jean Marc Mormeck for the Lineal Ring ****zine, WBC and WBA World Cruiserweight titles.

That type of competitive activity from David Haye, showed that he was already a Heavyweight fighter 'Even as a Cruiserweight, the only real altercations he had to make in his training in order to move up into the heavyweight Division. Was most likely with his diet, and not having to be too concerned with boiling himself down to a specific weight limit'.

The main point I am trying to make is? With fighters such as Evander Holyfield, David Haye and Oleksandr Uysk 'The process which they went through, to compete as Heavyweight fighters. Involved a very strategic, meticulous and tactical preparation'.

To conclude: James Toney in comparison, was a Heavyweight fighter 'Because he was out of condition. His ambition to be a Heavyweight fighter, did not involve much strategy. James Toney no longer wanted to train in the manner, which was necessary for him to be a lower weight class fighter. But even with this attitude, James Toney's skills and boxing ability was good enough for him? To compete at Heavyweight'.

I don't think the best version of James Toney at Heavyweight, beats any of those past great Heavyweight fighters 'But he may well survive, as Toney did have a great defense and elite level durability'

Stylistically out of all those fighters in that list, David Tua may be to most winnable fight 'But even still? David Tua at his absolute peak would be the favourite to win' etc.

[MikeyMike100]

Who would win in a 12 round HEAVYWEIGHT Boxing match against James Toney ?
• Vitali Klitschko
• Wldamir Klitschko
• Anthony Joshua
• Joe Fraizer
• David Tua
• Lennox Lewis
• Tyson Fury
• George Foreman
• Sonny Liston
Who would lose ?
how and why ?

All of them beat James Toney but Toney has a good chance vs Tua if Toney is roided up

[djtmal]

James Toney was easily beaten by unranked journeyman multiple times in his prime so that argument isn't going to work.

.

Whatever dude he beat Nunn a guy whose skill level is above anybody Tua or Joshua beat.

You just hate Toney.

[IronDanHamza]

No being upset by a fat out of shape guy who couldn't throw a straight jab is

Joshua is a Eurobum lost to a total unknown

I'm telling you soon as he fought somebody who hit him back he wasn't the same

My man was clubbing him George Foreman style.

Wasn't unknown at all. He was ranked in the Top 10.

And Andy Ruiz is 10x the heavyweight James Toney was you dumb fuck.

[IronDanHamza]

Whatever dude he beat Nunn a guy whose skill level is above anybody Tua or Joshua beat.

You just hate Toney.

Oh so because Toney beat Micheal Nunn, a fight he was being dominated in by the way, he now beats AJ What kind of idiot are you?

Micheal Nunn doesn't last a round vs Tua or AJ.

James Toney did nothing at HW to suggest he could be competitive with an elite, unified champion like AJ. Nothing. That's the reality of it.

[IronDanHamza]

All of them beat James Toney but Toney has a good chance vs Tua if Toney is roided up

What makes you think Toney has a "good chance" vs the likes of Tua?

He couldn't beat fighters worse than Tua so why would you think he could do more against better fighters?

[djtmal]

Oh so because Toney beat Micheal Nunn, a fight he was being dominated in by the way, he now beats AJ

Stop dancing around the fact that Joshua's comp isn't even Michael Nunn level.

Joshua hit dude, dude hit him back and Joshua was floundering around the ring.

Bro was doing the Zab Judah dance

[SUBZER0ED]

James Toney couldn't defeat a donut.

He certainly couldn't resist one, or a dozen!