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    #11
    I call total bullchit

    This is called damage control at its finest

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      #12
      One never knows the particulars of contracts or what's been said behind closed doors. The devil is in the details. I like Boots but, similar to Andrade, I have to wonder how much you are actually being avoided after a while...
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        #13
        Originally posted by PBR Streetgang View Post
        One never knows the particulars of contracts or what's been said behind closed doors. The devil is in the details. I like Boots but, similar to Andrade, I have to wonder how much you are actually being avoided after a while...
        Bud is somewhere laughing his ass off
        Notice how none of those who called Bud a duckster have shown their faces ???
        He really seems to be the new Andrade
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          #14
          It's literally in the IBF rules that he's allowed to take the fight... There's no way around it. Someone, probably several someones, on Boots side is lying. High probability that Eddie is lying to us AND to Boots, IMO.

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            #15
            Lmfao no. You gotta be a fvkcing idiot to believe him

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              #16
              Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

              That's nonsense. Not even how it works. He just fought his mandatory. He's eligible to fight a voluntary fight, just would have to petition the IBF and pay the sanctioning fees. He wouldn't have to consider vacating his title unless he won the fight and then they'd ask him to choose if he wants to keep competing in the 154lb division or not. It's not even a believable lie from Eddie because it's right there in the rules:

              "5.I. Non-Championship Contests

              Nothing in these Rules shall be considered to prohibit a Champion from engaging in an over the weight limit non-championship or non-title contest so long as he shall otherwise be in full compliance with all other applicable requirements of these Rules. Any and all bouts shall be concluded at least sixty (60) days prior to the date the Champion's mandatory is due."

              He just completed his mandatory. Next one isn't due for 9 months. He's allowed to compete in an over 147 non title bout. Period.

              If he truly didn't get informed about the possibility of the bout, Eddie is a terrible promoter and Ennis is an idiot. Otherwise, this is a flat duck. Not to mention, the whole boxing world knows Ortiz Jr nearly died from trying to make 147 and won't ever fight at that weight again. There's zero chance they'd send a contract for 147. Much higher chance that Ennis got cold feet, asked Eddie to make the fight at a weight they know Ortiz can't make so they'd have an excuse to bow out.
              As a Boots fan, I have to be honest and say that everything about this post is accurate.... There's no twisting things around trying to make Boots ignorant of his current or future business dealings..

              I'm still a fan and will continue to watch his fights, but I'm not gonna make excuses for him. I heard him, his pops and his promoter talk about fighting at 154 and Virgil after his victory over Karen. It's on video for crying out loud.....

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                #17
                Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

                That's nonsense. Not even how it works. He just fought his mandatory. He's eligible to fight a voluntary fight, just would have to petition the IBF and pay the sanctioning fees. He wouldn't have to consider vacating his title unless he won the fight and then they'd ask him to choose if he wants to keep competing in the 154lb division or not. It's not even a believable lie from Eddie because it's right there in the rules:

                "5.I. Non-Championship Contests

                Nothing in these Rules shall be considered to prohibit a Champion from engaging in an over the weight limit non-championship or non-title contest so long as he shall otherwise be in full compliance with all other applicable requirements of these Rules. Any and all bouts shall be concluded at least sixty (60) days prior to the date the Champion's mandatory is due."

                He just completed his mandatory. Next one isn't due for 9 months. He's allowed to compete in an over 147 non title bout. Period.

                If he truly didn't get informed about the possibility of the bout, Eddie is a terrible promoter and Ennis is an idiot. Otherwise, this is a flat duck. Not to mention, the whole boxing world knows Ortiz Jr nearly died from trying to make 147 and won't ever fight at that weight again. There's zero chance they'd send a contract for 147. Much higher chance that Ennis got cold feet, asked Eddie to make the fight at a weight they know Ortiz can't make so they'd have an excuse to bow out.
                Well then, somebody is lying here because it's not making sense.

                Maybe a contract wasn't officially sent, but a verbal offer was made. After all, he did offer up a Bud Crawford fight to Benavidez at 160, according to David. That's just as ridiculous as dragging Ortiz back down to a weight that almost killed him.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post

                  Well then, somebody is lying here because it's not making sense.

                  Maybe a contract wasn't officially sent, but a verbal offer was made. After all, he did offer up a Bud Crawford fight to Benavidez at 160, according to David. That's just as ridiculous as dragging Ortiz back down to a weight that almost killed him.
                  You're so fvkcing pathetic boy

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Groin Grabber View Post

                    You're so fvkcing pathetic boy
                    As pathetic as you following me around like a lost puppy.

                    Go check your Grindr account for hopeful matches, ***** boy.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post

                      As pathetic as you following me around like a lost puppy.

                      Go check your Grindr account for hopeful matches, ***** boy.
                      Lmao typical bltch

                      Can't argue with facts so you resort to pathetic insults eat shlt pathetic loser

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