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    #41
    Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post

    Again, Floyd had no control over "prime" guys avoiding him while in their "primes."
    Its just as much proof that your boy avoided guys that wasn't avoiding him.

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      #42
      At least Oscar is giving the media and Youtubers something to talk and write about. It's a high-profile sport, not golf or chess. You won't get any of this in the PBC mysterious island, as someone calls it. Everything is kept secret. It's as if they're living under Kim Jong Un's dictatorship.

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        #43
        Originally posted by landotter View Post
        There is more than enough blame to go around. Promoters protect their young stars, which teaches the young stars they can be great without doing anything. Sanctioning bodies enforce mandatories with scrubs who have earned nothing and look the other way with established stars that earn them cash. In their prime, the HBO and Showtime sports divisions refused to work with each other, and when DAZN and ESPN picked up the scraps of the 2 networks dropping boxing they gleefully continued the lunacy of insulating their stable of fighters from the other.

        Luckily, there seems to forces bringing the pendulum swing back the other way. The biggest hurdle left is to teach fighters that losses are not the end of their careers. For all the criticism of Anthony Joshua, his earning power continuing to be solid even after his losses is a good thing. If we as a boxing fan base reward boxers who lose with our continued support so long as they are daring to be great, I think another golden age might be starting.

        Yep.... I am boxing fan. I expect to have my hopes destroyed even as I let them get built up...
        This I believe starts with the boxing media and promoters. Tim Bradley said the fight between Pedreza and Commey was pink slip fight, loser packs his bags. De La Hoya said the same thing with Pacquaio vs Mattyshe and Linares vs Loma. If I'm a young up and coming fighter with marketing potential and I see two major names in the boxing media saying 'If you lose, its OVER', I'm not going to be inclined to risk my 0.
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          #44
          Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post

          Again, Floyd had no control over "prime" guys avoiding him while in their "primes."
          We could say the same about Crawford, but I'm pretty sure you will put Mayweather above Terence.

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            #45
            Originally posted by anonymous2.0 View Post

            This I believe starts with the boxing media and promoters. Tim Bradley said the fight between Pedreza and Commey was pink slip fight, loser packs his bags. De La Hoya said the same thing with Pacquaio vs Mattyshe and Linares vs Loma. If I'm a young up and coming fighter with marketing potential and I see two major names in the boxing media saying 'If you lose, its OVER', I'm not going to be inclined to risk my 0.
            That is a solid point, and I should have assigned blame to the "grab a headline" media as well.

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              #46
              Originally posted by djtmal View Post

              Its just as much proof that your boy avoided guys that wasn't avoiding him.
              No there isn't. Just you on your crusade against facts.

              You somehow think that your personal feelings on the matter hold more weight than the actual words of Bob Arum.

              That's just weird.

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                #47
                Originally posted by boxingitis View Post

                We could say the same about Crawford, but I'm pretty sure you will put Mayweather above Terence.
                Floyd actually bought himself out of his contract and jumped around in weight to make ish happen.

                He and Bud are not the same.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post

                  No there isn't.
                  Yes it is. He on record backed out of fights with Wright Margarito and Pacquio.

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                    #49
                    Of course, the "fighters are to blame for boxing's ills."

                    Shining examples are the Charlo brothers. They're in their prime, still young, healthy, lots of fights to choose from in their own PBC backyard, no need to cross the street, yet they choose to stay inactive for years. Then there is Thurman, Spence, Crawford, Shakur, Wahid fighting a virtual nobody, etc. And where is Adames who just got awarded an email title? Where is Edwin De Los Santos? Have they been infected by this inactivity disease which is widespread in the PBC area?

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                      Yes it is. He on record backed out of fights with Wright Margarito and Pacquio.
                      He never once backed out of a fight with Pacquiao. Nice attempt at trying to re-write history. Manny backed out due to the testing protocol.

                      Never backed out of Margarito either. We've already been through this. I'm impervious to gaslighting.

                      You can't count Wright if it makes you feel better. Not sure how a 140 pounder ducks a 154 guy, but ok.

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