Comments Thread For: Ex-champions weigh in on Oscar De La Hoya's view that fighters are to blame for boxing's ills

[hitmanjosh]

VERY GOOD POST & TRUE.!!! Fighters want to keep their "0", do mismatches, enforce clauses, demand to too much $$ for a real fight. Fraud "the Goat" Mayweather ruined sport.!! It's crazy how dumb fans think he's the greatest after he messed it up!!

You outta your rabbit a-s mind too! Go blow Oscar MF'er

[hitmanjosh]

Fraud mayweather was a garbage chicken boxer

How many fights do you have MF'er?

[djtmal]

It's Mayweather effect. It's all about facing the least risky fights for the most money facing WELL Known Names.

De La Hoya was old
Marquez was 2 divsions lower
Mosley was old
Canelo was Green and drained
Pacman was not near his peak, been beating multiple times already
McGregor was a name

One Maidana in his "prime" and Mayweather struggles needing a rematch.

Also waiting for the highest Risk fights till later age like Crawford vs Spence and now Tank waiting to take high risk fights. Finallywanting to face an old Loma. Canelo not taking on Benavidez. It's clearly the fighters specially if they are the A side.

Facts on facts

[hitmanjosh]

Who did Floyd fight at Middleweight?

U don't know sh_t about boxing either, I see! Oscar 51 will be 52 In February Floyd will be 48 then you mention his weight classes which started at Jr. Lightweight 130-154 he weighed 150 1/2 fighting Canelo who came in @152. Canelo was younger and beating everyone but look at his record and the people he fought was much older, but no flack only to Floyd who is black. Miguel Cotto is 44, Floyd beat him too, Zab Judah 47 Floyd beat him too, Shane Mosley is 53, Ricky Hatton 46. They all got their a_s kicked too!

[Buzzbron]

Floyd, Oscar, Manny, and now Canelo cherry-picked on the back end of their careers by earning the right to do so- by being able to generate big $$$ whoever they fought

What changed is guys today tried to jump directly into this model without bringing in the $$$ or the eyeballs and demanding they they get paid like they do.

The business model doesn’t work unless someone else is paying the bills- PBC was able to get Showtime and others to pay big money for garbage fights- but there is no one left to pay their bills any more, yet the huge roster of PBC still expects business as usual…so they are just going to wither on the vine

We will see when or if Tank fights again as he guarantee demands are out whack with his drawing power- selling 300K PPV buys on average cannot get him a 30 million guarantee

[LAchargers373]

Pretty sure Floyd never had one fight at 160 doe. I think he topped at 154 and always came 2 pounds lighter on average.

You right, I recalled the cotto/mayweather fight being for the MW title but apparently it was at 154. Swore it was for the MW belt but they both weighed in well under but the history books can’t be wrong lol. Thats some Mandela effect stuff right there lol. Either that or I smoke too much weedlmao

[Gary Coleman]

Now make a list of the "Greats" he beat in their "Prime".

You probably think Jake Paul beating a Mike Tyson impressive as well.

You are fooled my Mayweather's smoke and mirrors.
They were old or real young, those are "facts", not opinions and not in their prime years.

Hard to beat people in their primes when they avoid you while in their primes.

There's no denying Floyd's greatness, no matter how hard you try.

[Verus]

U don't know sh_t about boxing either, I see! Oscar 51 will be 52 In February Floyd will be 48 then you mention his weight classes which started at Jr. Lightweight 130-154 he weighed 150 1/2 fighting Canelo who came in @152. Canelo was younger and beating everyone but look at his record and the people he fought was much older, but no flack only to Floyd who is black. Miguel Cotto is 44, Floyd beat him too, Zab Judah 47 Floyd beat him too, Shane Mosley is 53, Ricky Hatton 46. They all got their a_s kicked too!

Hey, I am a Mayweather fan and have been for years. Did I miss something? I thought I read in your post that Floyd fought at middleweight. If you did not post that, I misread it. If you did post that he fought at middleweight, it is a simple mistake and no big deal. I make tons of those. As to how much I know about boxing, you might be right my knowledge is limited. I have been following boxing for decades, but only as a fan of the sport and not as a student of the game.

[boxingitis]

Hard to beat people in their primes when they avoid you while in their primes.

There's no denying Floyd's greatness, no matter how hard you try.

Greatness at picking his opponents at the right time.

[Gary Coleman]

Greatness at picking his opponents at the right time.

How would Floyd force Oscar or Mosley in the ring when they were both bigger stars than him, holding all the cards? Cotto wanted to fight Floyd at 140 until he saw the whippin Gatti got. Floyd can't control Zab losing focus against Baldomir.

Imagine Floyd avoiding Manny for 5 years because he didn't want to be randomly drug tested. What would the media and fan narrative have been?

When, exactly, should Floyd have fought Canelo? Waited 2 more years, perhaps, when he's 38?

He fought and beat all these guys with relative ease. Fighting younger versions of Floyd only would have made it worse for them all.