Comments Thread For: Conor Benn targets 147lbs champions but happy to go through Chris Eubank first

[IronDanHamza]

or is it a joke? or is it something else, until i find out what the reasons for ukad appealing and failing and all the stuff that has gone on then anything is on the table and nothing if off the table, thats the bottom line

Doesn't really matter if it was a joke or not, or if that's your way of trying to deflect from the lie you told.

It's still a lie, that you told.

Nothing is off the table to speculate but that isn't what you did, you made a claim. You have to back up your claim with evidence and none exists for the claim you made, hence why it's a lie.

[Smash]

Doesn't really matter if it was a joke or not, or if that's your way of trying to deflect from the lie you told.

It's still a lie, that you told.

Nothing is off the table to speculate but that isn't what you did, you made a claim. You have to back up your claim with evidence and none exists for the claim you made, hence why it's a lie.

Im going to try this one more time and one more time only

If i read something like the below

"According to sources for the Daily Mail, Benn’s lawyers argued that UKAD had no jurisdiction to preside over drug samples collected by VADA."

and then i say something like below

"look hes all happy face now, just like he was when he found out about the jurisdiction loophole"

THAT is NOT a LIE lol

if u cant understand that i cant say anymore

[IronDanHamza]

Im going to try this one more time and one more time only

If i read something like the below

"According to sources for the Daily Mail, Benn’s lawyers argued that UKAD had no jurisdiction to preside over drug samples collected by VADA."

and then i say something like below

"look hes all happy face now, just like he was when he found out about the jurisdiction loophole"

THAT is NOT a LIE lol

if u cant understand that i cant say anymore

That is a lie, because you've just asserted he's happy because he found out about a jurisdiction loophole when you have no evidence to support that claim.

The fact there is a sourceless, baseless newspaper report is totally irrelevant to the lie you've told there above.

[boxingitis]

Ryan vs Benn, the fight of the Cheaters.

[Butt stuff]

On Boots last performances Benn rips his head off

I just can't see that happening in any scenario where Boots has two legs and arms.

[tokon]

Why do you keep repeating this lie? I don't get it. You've had it explained to you ad nasuem yet you continue to flat out lie.

What is it going to take for you to understand that Conor Benn has had two hearings with BBBoC/UKAD? Honestly what will it take for you to grasp that?

He literally just had it the other day, and WON IT.

What part are you not understanding?

Which two hearings with bbbc/UKAD are you referring to Dan?

He has had two hearings with the National Anti Doping Panel and both times they rescinded his suspension but I'm not sure if he's had any hearings with bbbc.

[tokon]

idk i give up with u

we DONT HAVE ANY FACTS as to why eggie was cleared & why ukad won their appeal (must be a reason) & why he was cleared again, its all SPECULATION until we get some facts, there were reports on this site and online and in newspapers that eggies lawyers were using the jurisdiction angle to try to get off, since we have NO FACTS this speculation is just as good an yours or anyones elses speculation, its not lies as u said, u said there was NO STORY but there WAS A STORY at the time

Yeah, sort of. It appears that the National Anti Doping Panel have rescinded Benn's suspension as it had concluded it eas not "comfortably satisfied" that UKAD had proven Benn had committed a doping offence.

Which sort of fits with your proposition that Benn and lawyers had worked the jurisdiction angle. Under strict liability it's not up to UKAD to prove why Benn failed a test. However, Benn didn't fail ukads tests, he twice failed VADA tests! Which sort of suggests that UKAD haven't proven he doped, although he obviously did, and it looks like VADA have no jurisdiction in UK or maybe with bbbc?

[IronDanHamza]

Which two hearings with bbbc/UKAD are you referring to Dan?

He has had two hearings with the National Anti Doping Panel and both times they rescinded his suspension but I'm not sure if he's had any hearings with bbbc.

That’s what the hearing with NAPD is; With (vs) UKAD.

UKAD or BBBoC don’t undergo hearings themselves, the NADP do. The NAPD are the independent body that overbook all drug testing hearings in this country via UKAD. I.e give out the bans etc

So in layman’s terms it’s the person who failed the drug test vs UKAD. So when Benn won the first one, UKAD appealed and won that appeal. This time round, they lost again and have 21 days to appeal the loss.

[IronDanHamza]

Yeah, sort of. It appears that the National Anti Doping Panel have rescinded Benn's suspension as it had concluded it eas not "comfortably satisfied" that UKAD had proven Benn had committed a doping offence.

Which sort of fits with your proposition that Benn and lawyers had worked the jurisdiction angle. Under strict liability it's not up to UKAD to prove why Benn failed a test. However, Benn didn't fail ukads tests, he twice failed VADA tests! Which sort of suggests that UKAD haven't proven he doped, although he obviously did, and it looks like VADA have no jurisdiction in UK or maybe with bbbc?

How does it appear that way?

Did the NADP, UKAD or anyone else release a statement?

[Nobullganstein]

Originally posted by Nobullganstein View Post
I occasionally juice up and anybody who knows anything about juicing knows Conor Benn is guilty. Let me make this clear whenever you take PED’S they raise your testosterone, this helps with muscle building and athletic performance, once you stop taking the PEDs you’re body which gets used to the extra testosterone thinks it’s getting enough and stops making testosterone, this causes testosterone to drop and your estrogen levels to rise,once that happens your lose the gains or positive results of the PEDs ie muscle loss,performance etc.
you can counteract this by taking women’s breast cancer drugs ie Tamoxifen or Clomid which surpress estrogen levels, which in return let u keep your gains for longer.
How did Conor benn get these female prescription drugs in his body????
let’s stop talking **** he’s guilty and looked rubbish since getting caught, a mid-timed steroid cycle take your ban like a man!!
His lawyer's stated that their claim is contaminated supplements. Which, we know is possible in this scenario, don't we?

So it could be that.

It could be his was running Clomid on top of whatever cycle he was on but you as a PED user would know that the timing's of the failed tests don't really make much sense in that regard, right?

You've said there "take your ban like a man", he's had two hearings now in regards to that. It's not his fault he's won the hearings. If he'd have lost the hearings he'd have been given a ban, but he didn't, so he hasn't. That's not his fault. He's done his due process.
Last edited by IronDanHamza; Yesterday, 04:55 PM.
traces of clomid were definitely found in his system on 2 different tests,there is no doubt about that.
Conor Benn’s defence is that it was from contaminated food or supplements. That is there defence that UKAD can not prove 100 per cent that Conor didn’t ingest it by mistake through these means.
The problem for Conor Benn as the BBBofC know is the compound in his system clomid,if it would have be a stimulant let’s say ephedrine or something like that it would have been plausible to say it was ingested through a supplement as many supplements do contain banned substances,that’s what happened with billy Joe Saunders if you remember.but clomid or tamoxifen are not in any supplements for building muscle or recovery definitely not,like I said previously they are female prescription drugs for cancer and such which surpress estrogeon.
There is only 1 reason that those compounds would be found in a male body,and that is to surpress estrogeon after a steroid cycle.
As for contamination of food let’s just say Conor had unluckily bought all his eggs from a farm that had been lacing its hen food with clomid to boost egg production,he would have to have consumed around 2000 eggs a week for a couple of months for it to show up in his system.
So yeah you’re right and his top dollar solicitors are right how can we prove for 100 per cent Conor didn’t consume 8000 eggs whilst training,maybe he did……………
but the BBBofC are not buying it,they know like i know and anybody else with half a brain knows,he’s got off on a technicality and that’s it.