Comments Thread For: Conor Benn targets 147lbs champions but happy to go through Chris Eubank first

[IronDanHamza]

Originally posted by Nobullganstein View Post
I occasionally juice up and anybody who knows anything about juicing knows Conor Benn is guilty. Let me make this clear whenever you take PED’S they raise your testosterone, this helps with muscle building and athletic performance, once you stop taking the PEDs you’re body which gets used to the extra testosterone thinks it’s getting enough and stops making testosterone, this causes testosterone to drop and your estrogen levels to rise,once that happens your lose the gains or positive results of the PEDs ie muscle loss,performance etc.
you can counteract this by taking women’s breast cancer drugs ie Tamoxifen or Clomid which surpress estrogen levels, which in return let u keep your gains for longer.
How did Conor benn get these female prescription drugs in his body????
let’s stop talking **** he’s guilty and looked rubbish since getting caught, a mid-timed steroid cycle take your ban like a man!!
His lawyer's stated that their claim is contaminated supplements. Which, we know is possible in this scenario, don't we?

So it could be that.

It could be his was running Clomid on top of whatever cycle he was on but you as a PED user would know that the timing's of the failed tests don't really make much sense in that regard, right?

You've said there "take your ban like a man", he's had two hearings now in regards to that. It's not his fault he's won the hearings. If he'd have lost the hearings he'd have been given a ban, but he didn't, so he hasn't. That's not his fault. He's done his due process.
Last edited by IronDanHamza; Yesterday, 04:55 PM.
traces of clomid were definitely found in his system on 2 different tests,there is no doubt about that.
Conor Benn’s defence is that it was from contaminated food or supplements. That is there defence that UKAD can not prove 100 per cent that Conor didn’t ingest it by mistake through these means.
The problem for Conor Benn as the BBBofC know is the compound in his system clomid,if it would have be a stimulant let’s say ephedrine or something like that it would have been plausible to say it was ingested through a supplement as many supplements do contain banned substances,that’s what happened with billy Joe Saunders if you remember.but clomid or tamoxifen are not in any supplements for building muscle or recovery definitely not,like I said previously they are female prescription drugs for cancer and such which surpress estrogeon.
There is only 1 reason that those compounds would be found in a male body,and that is to surpress estrogeon after a steroid cycle.
As for contamination of food let’s just say Conor had unluckily bought all his eggs from a farm that had been lacing its hen food with clomid to boost egg production,he would have to have consumed around 2000 eggs a week for a couple of months for it to show up in his system.
So yeah you’re right and his top dollar solicitors are right how can we prove for 100 per cent Conor didn’t consume 8000 eggs whilst training,maybe he did……………
but the BBBofC are not buying it,they know like i know and anybody else with half a brain knows,he’s got off on a technicality and that’s it.

That's not true. Clomid is found in trace amounts in many over the counter supplements and that's been proven. There is a problem with Clomid in that regard specifically.

Secondly, you've said there, and think you're saying you're of the opinion of he's using Clomid as PCT post cycle when that wouldn't make any sense would it with the timing of the failed tests. I'm going to guess that's one of his defenses and it makes sense.

Many fellow experts that I've conversed with on this topic are actually are leaning on the likely scenario here being contamination. So saying any one with half a brain knows is just not true.

Me personally? Don't know, or care. There's no excuse for having banned substances in your system, contaminated or not.

[tokon]

That’s what the hearing with NAPD is; With (vs) UKAD.

UKAD or BBBoC don’t undergo hearings themselves, the NADP do. The NAPD are the independent body that overbook all drug testing hearings in this country via UKAD. I.e give out the bans etc

So in layman’s terms it’s the person who failed the drug test vs UKAD. So when Benn won the first one, UKAD appealed and won that appeal. This time round, they lost again and have 21 days to appeal the loss.

No Dan the hearing weren't with BBBofC; they were with NAPD. BbCofC,UKAD and (I assume) Benn were presenting their cases to the NAPD.

UKAD and BbbC do hold hearings themselves. Benn surrender his British licence rather than attend one.

As regards your other post, both UKAD and BbbC have issued statements, they're in the article that we're discussing.

When I said "it appears" that is merely my own observation based on the respective statements that have been issued.

[tokon]

Me personally? Don't know, or care. There's no excuse for having banned substances in your system, contaminated or not.

Me neither and, under "strict liability" none should be accepted! Thanks.

[IronDanHamza]

No Dan the hearing weren't with BBBofC; they were with NAPD. BbCofC,UKAD and (I assume) Benn were presenting their cases to the NAPD.

UKAD and BbbC do hold hearings themselves. Benn surrender his British licence rather than attend one.

Yeah I know because UKAD and BBBoC don't undertake drug testing hearings.

When someone fails a drug test in this country, via UKAD who overlook all drug testing procedures, the hearings are undergone by the NAPD who are a independent body who deal with all failed drug tests.

Pick out any drug testing hearing in this country; Fury, Whyte, Khan, etc etc etc, their hearings are undergone by the NADP. Then, after both sides presenting their case, they make a verdict. If the fighter loses, they are given a ban.

So he has had two hearings with BBBoC/UKAD. He's done every due process he can possibly do at this point.

As regards your other post, both UKAD and BbbC have issued statements, they're in the article that we're discussing.

When I said "it appears" that is merely my own observation based on the respective statements that have been issued.

Oh ok, got you.

I misunderstood but as it stands it doesn't appear that way, it is that way. Benn has had his temporary suspension lifted after winning his hearing. That's cut and dry for the moment.

But the same thing happened last year until it was overturned on appeal. So that could happen again.

[IronDanHamza]

Me neither and, under "strict liability" none should be accepted! Thanks.

Yeah I agree.

Because despite contamination being more than possible in this scenario here, there is no way to demonstrably prove it.

And I can't grasp why athletes in 2024 are using over the counter products anyway when we know there is a contamination problem.

[tokon]

Yeah I agree.

Because despite contamination being more than possible in this scenario here, there is no way to demonstrably prove it.

And I can't grasp why athletes in 2024 are using over the counter products anyway when we know there is a contamination problem.

Could be wrong (I often am!) but my understanding of the process was,when signing up, the athletes have to declare any and all supplements, medications, etc - including brands - that they are taking.