Comments Thread For: Artur Beterbiev beating Dmitry Bivol was no robbery

[_Rexy_]

Fair dos. I'm surprised, but that's a pretty decent sample size.

What's wild is the 10/10 round for round 7. 740+ people voted and it's split on that round 9.52/9.48 Beterbiev (when it's that close, it averages to 10/10) so a lot of people didn't know if it was Bivol's big combo, or Beterbiev hurting him off that combo and stalking him down after won the round.

Crazy close fight. I personally had it 116-112 Beterbiev, but when I heard the 116-112 card, I assumed Bivol won just because he has the more pleasing style. But one thing to consider if you've never been to a Beterbiev fight live, is how LOUD his punches are. That would definitely sway the ringside judges, because it sounds like every shot hurts like ****.

[_Rexy_]

It was no robbery but Beterbiev’s corner told him he needed to ko Bivol to win. Enough said.

Enough Said? Is this your first time watching boxing? Guys get told that all the damn time.


And they SHOULD. I hate when guys corners tell them they're ahead. You should always fight as if you're down on the cards.

[_Rexy_]

They told him that because they had never seen Biev get a decision and they didnt want to leave it to the judges. Many corners say this in close fights, because as we all know, judging is a mess these days.

Biev and his team looked unsure after the fight because of this. Biev did everything he could, he was the aggressor, made the fight and busted Bivol up. Bivol ran most of the fight and landed some pitty pat flurries here and there, he fought to not get stopped. Smart, but that won't win a championship fight unless you pull it off perfectly, and Bivol got knocked around, pushed around and it was obvious he was scared of getting hurt.

I mean no shame in it, he is the one guy to last 12 with Biev. That said, it made for an ok but mostly drama free 12 rounds and he never looked there to win it, just there to not get stopped.

Biev won by at least 3 rounds, and 4 rounds is totally acceptable. Props to Bivol fans who admit it, Bivol fought smart and he lost. Had he tried to stop Biev, he may have gotten stopped, or maybe he could have stopped Biev. But he lost.

The whole thing is that many Bivol fans, many of which are Canelo fans, wanted to see Canelo redeemed....that includes many in the sport who make money on Canelo and hate to hear he is overrated. Biev was made the villian from the get go for some reason....I expect Hearn behind the scenes influenced a lot of that. Biev is incredibly fun to watch and destructive, a throwback fighter. Very humble and the real deal. Bivol always been kind of boring.

The narrative before the fight is feeding in to this. Biev won, no question. Many Bivol/Canelo fans have reverted to Olympic scoring, and it is the pros. Not amateurs.

The irony is if you replaced Beterbiev with Bivol had fought Bivol I guarantee they'd have it 11-1

[CasperUK]

It was a robbery. It would be a struggle to find 7 rnds that Artur actually looked good in and did great work.
Bivol didn't do himself any favors by covering up for long stretches in certain rounds, but outside of a body shot here and there,i really can't even remember any Artur punches that he landed. I clearly remember Art getting rocked in the 7th and clean combos from Bivol though

Do you remember the beatdown on Bivol in Round 11 or do you have selective amnesia?!

[IronDanHamza]

What's wild is the 10/10 round for round 7. 740+ people voted and it's split on that round 9.52/9.48 Beterbiev (when it's that close, it averages to 10/10) so a lot of people didn't know if it was Bivol's big combo, or Beterbiev hurting him off that combo and stalking him down after won the round.

Crazy close fight. I personally had it 116-112 Beterbiev, but when I heard the 116-112 card, I assumed Bivol won just because he has the more pleasing style. But one thing to consider if you've never been to a Beterbiev fight live, is how LOUD his punches are. That would definitely sway the ringside judges, because it sounds like every shot hurts like ****.

What's wild is you scoring Round 1 for Beterbeiv

And you have the audacity to criticize others for how they score fights? Biggest clown on this site by far.

[IronDanHamza]

Enough Said? Is this your first time watching boxing? Guys get told that all the damn time.


And they SHOULD. I hate when guys corners tell them they're ahead. You should always fight as if you're down on the cards.

What a moronic thing to say.

Just when I thought you couldn't sound more idiotic, low and behold you go and do it.

[Phase III]

A Real Robbery,:

You call yourself a Promoter. You constantly disparage other fighter not involved in your company. Fighters that you’re supposed to help and promote are losing at an alarming rate while you’re taking a big cut of their purses for doing nothing but answering Turki’s calls.

Then you’re desperate to put your shot HW fighter in a rematch after he got beat convincingly from pillar to post. You could care less about your fighters health and well-being as long as Turki is foolish enough to play your demented game.

That’s not only truly a robbery but it borderlines on reckless behavior because offering your fighter as a sacrificial lamb knowing he’s going to take a worse beating if your sadistic wish for a rematch ever materializes.

Robbing comes in many forms. Here you have a so called Promoter who’s not only robbing his fighter financially, worse, he’s picking his fighters pockets and walking him into a lions den knowing that he’s going to get eaten alive so that he can squeeze another payday out of his shot fighter who may not survive the unnecessary beating.

LET HIM LIVE YOU GREDDY BASTARD.

[ELPacman]

The fight was definitely closer in that Artur came on the second half. There were moments where Bivol just stopped activity entirely and Artur was pouring it on him. While I was initially surprised by the decision because I had it probably a draw or for Bivol, if it went to Artur, I'm not going to throw my hands up in robbery because it was that close of a fight and even I questioned giving Bivol some rounds where it was real close. I think people wanted a more definitive ending towards an Undisputed champion, especially when a guy like Artur has blasted all of his prior opponents, but that just goes to show the quality of Bivol.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

What a moronic thing to say.

Just when I thought you couldn't sound more idiotic, low and behold you go and do it.

You are saying that in a close fight where you believe that your fighter is winning but you understand how terrible and corrupt judging is at times.....you would tell your fighter he is up and to play it safe?

At this point with the garbage judging, if I had a big puncher who had obviously won but it was the last round, I'd say go out and seal the deal, stop him.

I mean seriously?

[Theshotyoudontsee]

The fight was definitely closer in that Artur came on the second half. There were moments where Bivol just stopped activity entirely and Artur was pouring it on him. While I was initially surprised by the decision because I had it probably a draw or for Bivol, if it went to Artur, I'm not going to throw my hands up in robbery because it was that close of a fight and even I questioned giving Bivol some rounds where it was real close. I think people wanted a more definitive ending towards an Undisputed champion, especially when a guy like Artur has blasted all of his prior opponents, but that just goes to show the quality of Bivol.

Bivol can't beat Biev. He fought very scared.

If he wants to beat Biev, he will have to be aggressive. Meaning he will get stopped.

Fighting to not get ko'd at all costs lead to him losing. Bivol fans will say, well what else can he do??? And they are right. But they give respect to Bivol for surviving, while at the same time without meaning to, they are saying Biev is too strong, too good and that all a guy can do is survive by running.

It is not the amateurs. Come to win or lose. Bivol is a good boxer, but he just fought scared. While Biev was chasing him and busting his face up, while also boxing extremely well and landing much harder shots.

Bivol just lost. IMO he is a good fighter but nothing special. He has always been good, not great. When you design your entire strategy around running and pitty pat flurries to try and steal rounds, it is obvious.