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    #41
    Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

    bread made some intelligent comments suggesting that a lot of punchers, as they age, start to miss the "High gear" that allowed them to finish off an opponent. As far as drug testing? we simply can never really know can we? That is the big fat elephant in the room... Ryan could have taken massive amounts, worked hard, them got caught with a trace amount, or he could have just gotten a bite on the wrong supplements... And even with small amounts, who knows what the actual advantage is?

    Ill tell you what makes me shake my head... All the back and fourth on steriods, and other enhancements... not only do people not realize that these are a class of drug that is in many medicines prescribed to the public, but nobody wants to consider how our lack of knowing measurable attributes to these drugs, suggests an advantage to the argument that athletes should be given more lattitude in what they choose to take. Not even suggesting this is right, but at least ethics should consider how little we can hope to gauge, as a reason that is favorable...

    We know that weight lifters use these drugs. It is just part of the sport, and we also can see the limits they present because of this. Could boxing do likewise? Perhaps fighters, trainers, and others could then figure out the limits to these drugs and not simply assume that the minute someone ses them they gain some profound edge. Just a thought.
    I hear you on that.

    I actually have my own theory about why Canelo isn't getting stoppages. I think it comes down to him falling in love with his much vaunted power, particularly after the Kovalev fight. I think his ego really liked knocking out a bigger guy who had a reputation as a crusher. After that fight, you don't see as much head movement, and more importantly, every shot is a bomb. He's had to be more economical as a result because that takes so much energy, and I can say for a fact that once you feel the power, it's way easier to take punches if you know they're all going to be bombs. If he varied his cadence and did some throwaway shots to set up the big ones, I think we'd see him get stoppages again. Keep his opponents guessing on which ones to tense up on. Plus he would be able to throw more shots with less gas.
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      #42
      Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

      I hear you on that.

      I actually have my own theory about why Canelo isn't getting stoppages. I think it comes down to him falling in love with his much vaunted power, particularly after the Kovalev fight. I think his ego really liked knocking out a bigger guy who had a reputation as a crusher. After that fight, you don't see as much head movement, and more importantly, every shot is a bomb. He's had to be more economical as a result because that takes so much energy, and I can say for a fact that once you feel the power, it's way easier to take punches if you know they're all going to be bombs. If he varied his cadence and did some throwaway shots to set up the big ones, I think we'd see him get stoppages again. Keep his opponents guessing on which ones to tense up on. Plus he would be able to throw more shots with less gas.
      Those are some great observations! Makes a lot of sense. I notice that head movement seems to fall by the wayside for a lot of fighters... Its like they forget about it somewhere down the line. I noticed this with one of my favorite fighters, Pit Bull Cruz. I noticed that gradually in his fights, he moves his head less and less... And I believe if he forgets this he will pay like he did last fight.
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        #43
        Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
        Not even sure if you watched the fight. I expected him to be washed in 3 rounds and definitely not go 12. He had no respect for canelo and wasn’t scared to piss him off. Survival mode is what charlo did, Berlanga was definitely trying to win but was outmatched and out skilled. Probably because he never had 1 single round of experience against a champion or even a former champion before that night while canelo has been champ for 14 yrs. Which is exactly why canelo picked him.
        I'm not going to give Berlanga more props than he's do, but for all of those saying that he was going to get knocked out in 3 rounds, he shut them up.
        No he didn't go after Canelo the way he said he would, but he did sting him a couple of times, and he wasn't even supposed to do that.
        All in all he proved that he could take a punch, and go the distance as well, now that he's proved his detractors wrong on those two points.
        His detractors are trying to change the narrative by saying it was because he outweighed Canelo that he was able to take his punch, and last the distance.
        Edgar did prove something this past Saturday, and that was that he can compete with the top ten rated fighters in his division.
        His next few fights will either add more wins, and experience to his career, or he'll go down as the fighter who didn't take advantage of a golden opportunity when it was presented to him.
        I've heard McCumby in February 2025, then Munguia in June 2025, if he beats them then it's a top ten fighter, or a championship fight.
        I'm interested in finding out how that plays out, and if he can become the champion he's been bragging about that he can be.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Ricardi View Post
          I want too see him against Jose Uzcategui next then fight for the IBF belt and defend it against Plant
          I'd like to see those fights myself!

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            #45
            Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post
            I thought Berlanga was going to get ran over but he proved tougher than I expected. His inexperience did show but he showed a lot of power but don't know how to deliver it. I would like to see him against Mbilli or Munguia. That would take care of the guys a currently rank below David and Morrell.
            I agree with you on this one STREET CLEANER.

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              #46
              Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post
              I thought Berlanga was going to get ran over but he proved tougher than I expected. His inexperience did show but he showed a lot of power but don't know how to deliver it. I would like to see him against Mbilli or Munguia. That would take care of the guys a currently rank below David and Morrell.
              His next 2-3 fights will tell us all we need to know!

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