Why MAYWEATHER did not make weight. (video)

[Al Haymon]

That would be historical and legendary. It would easily put him in the top 5 of all time. If he does that I would say he is the greatest fighter I have ever seen. However, in your opinion how likely is it for Floyd to take that risk?

For Floyd to go fight PWill at 160?

I don't think Floyd could beat PWill at 147, 154 or 160. But especially not at 160 where, presumably, P-dub would have grown into the weight.

Paul is not slow-handed or robotic. I would pick floyd to beat Pavlik because Kelly is slow-handed and robotic and i don't believe he would ever touch FMJ.

But Pun has a very good chance to lay hands on Floyd.

[Al Haymon]

You are a businessman you are not a true boxing fan. A true boxing fan would rather see Corales-Castillo fight than Mayweahter-De la Hoya. Yes the big event keeps boxing in the mainstream and is well needed. However, the competitive fights is what makes this sport great. And, you don't want to see that? You not a fan of the sport bro.

By the way what is your business in boxing?

I'm a financial consultant. Clients include the big CPG companies that sponsor events.

That may be the parent of Tecate sponsoring "numero uno"... but it could also mean Kroger sponsoring the jamie farr golf classic in toledo, ohio. So, it's not just boxing, but all sports, retail events, promotional launches, new product commercializations, etc.

And I am a boxing fan ALSO. I was watching boxing before I did business.
I would be willing to bet that if you and i took a boxing rules, events, history quiz, that you would not score substantiually higher than me.

When I say that I care more about the "event": I have seen all those fights, and i appreciate them...but I also know that there are lower-level fights that are just as good/better that people never ever see.

All of the novices who went bananas for Pac-Hatton, would wet their pants for Green-codrington. but they have never seen it. Why? it wasn't an event. And thus didn't advance the sport.

[Pretty Boy Greg]

I've gone on the record a zillion times and said that for the tune-up, i MUCH preferred to see a Marquez fight than to have Floyd fight Collazo or Quintana or Bonsu.

Haymon thats ridiculous!!! I would rather see them 10 times more than marquez. Although marquez is FHOF thats like mayweather going up to fight Chad Dawson. Nice tune-up fight but he needs to fight soon if he used that fight as a tuneup!!

[keepthemhandsup]

I've gone on the record a zillion times and said that for the tune-up, i MUCH preferred to see a Marquez fight than to have Floyd fight Collazo or Quintana or Bonsu.

WHAT THE HELL?!?!?!? so your prefectly fine with floyd having to fight a LW insted of a WW? i thought the problem was floyd didn't fight legit WW. how is not fighting berto, collazo, or quintana who establish themselves as WW not something a floyd fan want?

[Pretty Boy Greg]

That would be historical and legendary. It would easily put him in the top 5 of all time. If he does that I would say he is the greatest fighter I have ever seen. However, in your opinion how likely is it for Floyd to take that risk?

Its not as if he didn't take any risk with DLH, that was a very risky fight. and taking on castillo again when he almost lost! Judah at the time was a risky fight. Hell corrales he was the underdog!!

I'm a huge pwill fan but i dont' think he's as great yet what everyone is saying he is. He needs a few more big fights

[Roger Mellie]

I'm a financial consultant. Clients include the big CPG companies that sponsor events.

That may be the parent of Tecate sponsoring "numero uno"... but it could also mean Kroger sponsoring the jamie farr golf classic in toledo, ohio. So, it's not just boxing, but all sports, retail events, promotional launches, new product commercializations, etc.

And I am a boxing fan ALSO. I was watching boxing before I did business.
I would be willing to bet that if you and i took a boxing rules, events, history quiz, that you would not score substantiually higher than me.

When I say that I care more about the "event": I have seen all those fights, and i appreciate them...but I also know that there are lower-level fights that are just as good/better that people never ever see.

All of the novices who went bananas for Pac-Hatton, would wet their pants for Green-codrington. but they have never seen it. Why? it wasn't an event. And thus didn't advance the sport.

Mayweather isnt advancing the sport,he is only having a detrimental effect.

[Chups]

No honor whatsoever. It makes you less of a human being, and that's what Floyd is.

[Al Haymon]

Haymon thats ridiculous!!! I would rather see them 10 times more than marquez. Although marquez is FHOF thats like mayweather going up to fight Chad Dawson. Nice tune-up fight but he needs to fight soon if he used that fight as a tuneup!!

GRG,

That is your opinion, and I respect it.

Here is my rationale:

Mayweather coming back needed to test himself. At nearly 33, and with two years off, nobody was sure what he would be. If Floyd was active and asked fo Shane, pac or Miguel who were coming off a 2 year layoff, he would get killed for that. Agreed? Good.

Now, since we knew Floyd was gonna take a "tune-up' fight, it also needed to be "an event". He had a big tax bill, and he also needed to forge an imprint at the box office to make an argument for pay parity in a May-Pac matchup. Agreed? Good.

So - and this is where we might diverge - ....

Mayweather needed to fight someone "safe", but is also a name. Someone who had a compelling enough storyline to sell the fight.

Mayweather-Collazo 24/7?
Mayweather- Quintana 24/7?

That was not going to happen. That even sounds wonky.

Floyd would beat those guys. Sure. But it would not galvanize an audience to watch. it would basically be a dud fight on WCB. There is NO WAY that FMJ was coming back for that.

If Floyd came back and trashed Pito Cardona or Antonio Diaz, there would be less hate. I understand that Marquez is beloved, and it hurt a lot of people to see JMM be embarrassed and look so ineffectual in there. I respect that viewpoint. But JMM is a big boy, knew who he called out, and he got paid VERY handsomely for that loss. Marquez' status was not diminished.

Now, i invite you to tell me how many fighters would satisfy the comeback criteria:

1) relatively safe fight
2) PPV-worthy
3) brings a loyal fanbase or following

[Al Haymon]

Mayweather isnt advancing the sport,he is only having a detrimental effect.

The fact that he brings so much viewership to the sport says otherwise.

[Burner]

He didnt make weight and he took his fine like a man...what the hell you expect.