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    A worrying Canelo statistic.

    Canelo in 64 fights has only fought two fighters younger than him. Yildirim & Caleb Plant.
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    #2
    Plant is a solid win, but Canelo needs a big fight now that he is close at the end of his career. Doesn't matter if he wins or loses like Benavidez/Morrell/Bivol/Beterviec, just don't want him to sit on the belts at 168 like Crawford and Spence did with the pretext that he "earned" to pick his opponents.

    if he wants exhibition fights with Munguia, Mbilli and Berlanga that's okay, but he is wasting a lot of fighter's and promoter's time.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Feroz View Post
      Plant is a solid win, but Canelo needs a big fight now that he is close at the end of his career. Doesn't matter if he wins or loses like Benavidez/Morrell/Bivol/Beterviec, just don't want him to sit on the belts at 168 like Crawford and Spence did with the pretext that he "earned" to pick his opponents.

      if he wants exhibition fights with Munguia, Mbilli and Berlanga that's okay, but he is wasting a lot of fighter's and promoter's time.
      Plant's a decent win, but with this current crop of 168 pounders - he definitely loses to the top 3. Much like Canelo's other wins, none really stand the test of time. Which is why I understand why so many put him below the likes of Chavez, Morales, Sanchez, Marquez & Barrera.

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        #4
        Originally posted by messi807 View Post

        Plant's a decent win, but with this current crop of 168 pounders - he definitely loses to the top 3. Much like Canelo's other wins, none really stand the test of time. Which is why I understand why so many put him below the likes of Chavez, Morales, Sanchez, Marquez & Barrera.
        Alvarez's run at 168 hasn't aged that well has it? Not that Saunders and Plant aren't good wins but they aren't exactly unbeatable.

        He thought he could unify all the belts by targeting the champions at a average division and take a leap to cruiserweight against a aged Ilunga Makabu without anybody complaining. But it seems it backfired on him trying to take easy pickings after getting overwhelmed by Bivol, now the divisions have been filling out in terms of talent at 168, 175 and 200. And there isn't a solid argument for Canelo to avoid any of em.

        168:
        David Morrell
        Christian Mbilli
        Jaime Munguia
        Kevin Lele Sadjo
        Erik Bazinyan
        Diego Pacheco


        175:
        Dimitrii Bivol
        David Benavidez
        Arthur Beterviev

        200:
        Jai Opetaia
        Lawrence Okolie
        Maris Briedis
        Chris Billiam Smith
        Joe Smith Jr
        Gilberto Ramirez

        Obviously there are other boxers that I am missing and some don't belong in the list as a threat to him, but my point is the more Canelo tries to wait to fight top opponents, the more difficult it will get for him.
        Last edited by J.C. Superstar; 03-01-2024, 09:00 PM.
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          #5
          Originally posted by Feroz View Post

          Alvarez's run at 168 hasn't aged that well has it? Not that Saunders and Plant aren't good wins but they aren't exactly unbeatable.

          He thought he could unify all the belts by targeting the champions at a average division and take a leap to cruiserweight against a aged Ilunga Makabu without anybody complaining. But it seems it backfired on him trying to take easy pickings after getting overwhelmed by Bivol, now the divisions have been filling out in terms of talent at 168, 175 and 200. And there isn't a solid argument for Canelo to avoid any of em.

          168:
          David Morrell
          Christian Mbilli
          Jaime Munguia
          Kevin Lele Sadjo
          Erik Bazinyan
          Diego Pacheco


          175:
          Dimitrii Bivol
          David Benavidez
          Arthur Beterviev

          200:
          Jai Opetaia
          Lawrence Okolie
          Maris Briedis
          Chris Billiam Smith
          Joe Smith Jr
          Gilberto Ramirez

          Obviously there are other boxers that I am missing and some don't belong in the list as a threat to him, but my point is the more Canelo tries to wait to fight top opponents, the more difficult it will get for him.
          For sure, least we not forget he tried to drain a 40 year old CW Badou Jack with a 20lbs catchweight to try another one of his 'pickings'. I still don't get how any of his fanbase can defend this stuff.

          What I'm predicting is Munguia vs Canelo in May & Charlo vs Canelo in Sept or vice versa. Neither are terrible fights.. but both are super predictable. Munguia just beat a 36 year old retirement bound Ryder & now there's a bandwagon. I don't understand.

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            #6
            Originally posted by messi807 View Post
            Canelo in 64 fights has only fought two fighters younger than him. Yildirim & Caleb Plant.
            Has no bearing without stating the opponents class level and the form they were in at the time of a fight, age on face value means nothing.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

              Has no bearing without stating the opponents class level and the form they were in at the time of a fight, age on face value means nothing.
              Hopkins would serve Canelo a lesson
              Ask the clown that works with his re tarded way of thinking

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                #8
                Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                Has no bearing without stating the opponents class level and the form they were in at the time of a fight, age on face value means nothing.

                Of course, but then you'd have to factor in legitimacy of wins as well as quality of opponent and that doesn't look too good.
                Aside from that, most of the ATG'S have fought a range of younger fighters at world level - something Canelo has failed to do, which is worth pointing out. If this isn't true, name some ATG's that haven't? or fighters younger than them that were Yildirim or Plant level?
                Last edited by messi807; 03-01-2024, 11:15 PM.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

                  Hopkins would serve Canelo a lesson
                  Ask the clown that works with his re tarded way of thinking
                  You've been defending Canelo alot recently and criticising Benavidez every chance you get, then pretending like you're not a fan of Canelo. You got something to tell us?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Feroz View Post
                    Plant is a solid win, but Canelo needs a big fight now that he is close at the end of his career. Doesn't matter if he wins or loses like Benavidez/Morrell/Bivol/Beterviec, just don't want him to sit on the belts at 168 like Crawford and Spence did with the pretext that he "earned" to pick his opponents.

                    if he wants exhibition fights with Munguia, Mbilli and Berlanga that's okay, but he is wasting a lot of fighter's and promoter's time.


                    Hes the WBC's cash cow. They will do anything and everything to keep the belt in his hands, including protecting him from their own mandatory.


                    There should be some type of regulation to put a cap on the funds the ABC orgs get from fighters, when its unlimited and based on purse percentage it creates a massive conflict of interest.

                    Last edited by elfag; 03-02-2024, 12:08 AM.
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