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    Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    What I don't get is why do people try to forget when Mayweather
    was coming up looking to hit it big he was calling out everybody
    after each fight and no one answered him? I want Floyd to fight
    Pac, Mosley and Cotto one after the other but sometimes people
    on here be rewriting history like Floyd was scared of everyone but
    he has mentioned that he wanted to fight every big name after every
    win in his professional boxing career when he was looking to make a
    name for himself in the sport and none of the big names gave him
    a shot or even said his name in an interview. I feel like there are
    always two sides to a coin and when it comes to Mayweather, all
    many see is just one side and to me that's wack.

    If your going to try to present facts or bring up the past then
    mention everything in a whole but don't try to make everything
    up to support your accusations and or claims and bash others for
    presenting real hard evidence. Truth be told that Cotto was hidden
    by Arum at 140 from Floyd, Floyd wanted to fight Margarito but
    wanted a 10Mil guarantee on future fights with Cotto/Hatton,
    a lot of people were up in the air about who would win the
    Baldomir/Floyd fight including top WW's like Paul Williams and
    Antonio Margarito because of size and weight. All this stuff
    is documented but yet people tend to forget it to make themselves
    right or influence people to believe that Floyd ducked these guys?
    I just don't get it.

    It is also fact that Kosta Tszyu and Floyd couldn't get it on
    because Kosta was with Showtime and Floyd was with HBO.
    So many facts are there for the people to see for themselves
    but they are overlooked because of personal grudges with Floyd.
    I will be upset too if he doesn't fight a couple of WW's now that he
    is back but people have to understand that Floyd is a business man
    and all of this is calculated to give him the upper hand. Anyways,
    it is what it is but when/if a Floyd/Pac happens or Floyd/Cotto,
    Floyd/Mosley, I am willing to bet that Floyd beats all. I think things
    wil start to situate themselves after Pac/Cotto.

    You are da man!

    That was a damn good post and it gives me the confidence that there are other boxing fans out there that truly see things for what they are and not for what you want them to be.

    I'm a fair guy and I call a spade a spade. You seem to be similar. Good post!

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      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
      What I don't get is why do people try to forget when Mayweather
      was coming up looking to hit it big he was calling out everybody
      after each fight and no one answered him? I want Floyd to fight
      Pac, Mosley and Cotto one after the other but sometimes people
      on here be rewriting history like Floyd was scared of everyone but
      he has mentioned that he wanted to fight every big name after every
      win in his professional boxing career when he was looking to make a
      name for himself in the sport and none of the big names gave him
      a shot or even said his name in an interview. I feel like there are
      always two sides to a coin and when it comes to Mayweather, all
      many see is just one side and to me that's wack.

      If your going to try to present facts or bring up the past then
      mention everything in a whole but don't try to make everything
      up to support your accusations and or claims and bash others for
      presenting real hard evidence. Truth be told that Cotto was hidden
      by Arum at 140 from Floyd, Floyd wanted to fight Margarito but
      wanted a 10Mil guarantee on future fights with Cotto/Hatton,
      a lot of people were up in the air about who would win the
      Baldomir/Floyd fight including top WW's like Paul Williams and
      Antonio Margarito because of size and weight. All this stuff
      is documented but yet people tend to forget it to make themselves
      right or influence people to believe that Floyd ducked these guys?
      I just don't get it.

      It is also fact that Kosta Tszyu and Floyd couldn't get it on
      because Kosta was with Showtime and Floyd was with HBO.
      So many facts are there for the people to see for themselves
      but they are overlooked because of personal grudges with Floyd.
      I will be upset too if he doesn't fight a couple of WW's now that he
      is back but people have to understand that Floyd is a business man
      and all of this is calculated to give him the upper hand. Anyways,
      it is what it is but when/if a Floyd/Pac happens or Floyd/Cotto,
      Floyd/Mosley, I am willing to bet that Floyd beats all. I think things
      wil start to situate themselves after Pac/Cotto.
      that's why they're called "haters" grust.......they can't be reasoned with, and it's a waste of time arguing with them b/c any information that contradicts or disproves their point of view is usually overlooked or forgotten. let 'em do their jobs......the truth is the truth regardless.

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        Originally posted by Iceta View Post
        The reason that the big name fighters ignored him is because he fought bull**** fights like Brusseles, Corley, and NDou. I'm not saying that those guys are horrible opponents except for Brusseles, but Mayweather didn't break into the main stream until his fight with Gatti. You can't expect guys like Mosley and a green prospect like Cotto to take a fight with him for peanuts all the while he didn't even win a title at 140 until he beat Gatti. Right now Mayweather is turning down Shane Mosley while Mosley is coming off one of the biggest wins in his career and is ranked over Mayweather at the moment. If that's not a duck I don't know what is.
        I'm not buying it because your basically saying that it was OK for
        people to disregard Floyd because he was fighting bums and wasn't
        in demand but now all of sudden he's ducking Mosley? Mosley
        is not in demand by no one AT ALL! Besides Clottey/Williams/Cintron
        and he didn't want neither of them guys for the same reason Floyd is not
        jumping to fight Mosley now BECAUSE Mosley is not a mega mainstream
        fight like Pac and even Cotto. Mosley is coming off of his biggest win
        since De La Hoya and he couldn't even capatilize on it by fighting and
        winning after. I like Shane but there is no way I believe Floyd is scared
        of Shane, Shane just has to wait his turn IF he were smart he would
        have been fought again instead of showing his hand as a desperate
        fighter on his way out BECAUSE that's exactly how the big names like
        Pac and Floyd are treating him. Floyd wanted to fight Mosley TWICE
        and each time Mosley had and excuse, now he wants to fight Floyd
        and NOW Floyd is making an excuse, so why is Floyd ducking Mosley
        now and Shane didn't then? I'm not buying NONE of the lopsided
        opinions and non facts some on here be selling.

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          Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
          I'm not buying it because your basically saying that it was OK for
          people to disregard Floyd because he was fighting bums and wasn't
          in demand but now all of sudden he's ducking Mosley? Mosley
          is not in demand by no one AT ALL! Besides Clottey/Williams/Cintron
          and he didn't want neither of them guys for the same reason Floyd is not
          jumping to fight Mosley now BECAUSE Mosley is not a mega mainstream
          fight like Pac and even Cotto. Mosley is coming off of his biggest win
          since De La Hoya and he couldn't even capatilize on it by fighting and
          winning after. I like Shane but there is no way I believe Floyd is scared
          of Shane, Shane just has to wait his turn IF he were smart he would
          have been fought again instead of showing his hand as a desperate
          fighter on his way out BECAUSE that's exactly how the big names like
          Pac and Floyd are treating him. Floyd wanted to fight Mosley TWICE
          and each time Mosley had and excuse, now he wants to fight Floyd
          and NOW Floyd is making an excuse, so why is Floyd ducking Mosley
          now and Shane didn't then? I'm not buying NONE of the lopsided
          opinions and non facts some on here be selling.
          Let me ask you this. When has Mosley ever said that he flat out didn't want the fight? During the interview of his fight with Vargas he said that he needed more time to get down to 147 and it was already well-documented that he wasn't going to fight for the rest of the year. It's funny that Mayweather says he wants to fight him then. But when they are both in the same weight division it's Mosley tracking down the chicken prints. Mayweather has called out Winky and wasn't serious about making the fight too. The same thing is applying here in even a more blatant way because both Mayweather and Mosley fight in the same weight division and the fight is a no brainer.

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            Originally posted by Iceta View Post
            Let me ask you this. When has Mosley ever said that he flat out didn't want the fight? During the interview of his fight with Vargas he said that he needed more time to get down to 147 and it was already well-documented that he wasn't going to fight for the rest of the year. It's funny that Mayweather says he wants to fight him then. But when they are both in the same weight division it's Mosley tracking down the chicken prints. Mayweather has called out Winky and wasn't serious about making the fight too. The same thing is applying here in even a more blatant way because both Mayweather and Mosley fight in the same weight division and the fight is a no brainer.
            Mosley is doing the same to lesser guys that want to fight him
            as Floyd and Pac did or is doing to him. Mosley said he wants
            nothing but big money fights after the Margarito fight and to
            Pac and Floyd, he is not a big money fight plain and simple,
            ain't about being scared it's about bbusiness and Mosley has
            always been a lil suspect on that part. Did you know that
            Jin was keeping that fight from happening as well? Mosley
            was on his high horse for awhile too and still does it to
            fighters not on his level. People talk about Floyd ducking
            or don't want nothing to do with Paul Williams but Mosley
            flat out said he doesn't want it with Paul after being offered
            more money than he would get against a Berto? What do
            you call that? A duck right? I bet you will say that Paul is
            not a big enough name for Mosley and he won't gain nothing
            before you say Mosley ducked anybody BUT Floyd gets that
            title without even being offered a fight by Williams? Listen
            I'm not making excsues for Floyd because I do want to see him
            fight the guys at 147 BUT I'm not trying to twist things up to
            support how I feel. If it's red it's red and if it's blue it's blue.
            Not going to say something is red when it's blue or vice versa.
            Mosley wants Floyd and Pac for the big payday BOTTOMLINE
            and Floyd and Pac aint look at him as that as much as he did.

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