Didn't Paul Williams call out Floyd? I didn't hear a response from Floyd or his fans. Paul Williams has Floyd and everyone else on MUTE. So stop this nonsense about being the best cause everyone knows the Punisher will whup that ass at 147 or 154. I don't hear you.
I specifically remember Williams calling out Shane repeatedly.
funny how floyd was real humble face to face with shane. why didn't he say all this **** to the man face? why come out with a hitlist with the mans name on it if you not gon fight him? why fight a lil man when he calls you out of retirement but ***** up when a same size man calls you out?
the mayweathers crack me up, floyd has obviously used something too.. look at the difference between him in the phillip ndou fight and now.. its like barry bonds. as long as he doesnt get caught red-handed he can throw rocks at mosley all day
What I don't get is why do people try to forget when Mayweather
was coming up looking to hit it big he was calling out everybody
after each fight and no one answered him? I want Floyd to fight
Pac, Mosley and Cotto one after the other but sometimes people
on here be rewriting history like Floyd was scared of everyone but
he has mentioned that he wanted to fight every big name after every
win in his professional boxing career when he was looking to make a
name for himself in the sport and none of the big names gave him
a shot or even said his name in an interview. I feel like there are
always two sides to a coin and when it comes to Mayweather, all
many see is just one side and to me that's wack.
If your going to try to present facts or bring up the past then
mention everything in a whole but don't try to make everything
up to support your accusations and or claims and bash others for
presenting real hard evidence. Truth be told that Cotto was hidden
by Arum at 140 from Floyd, Floyd wanted to fight Margarito but
wanted a 10Mil guarantee on future fights with Cotto/Hatton,
a lot of people were up in the air about who would win the
Baldomir/Floyd fight including top WW's like Paul Williams and
Antonio Margarito because of size and weight. All this stuff
is documented but yet people tend to forget it to make themselves
right or influence people to believe that Floyd ducked these guys?
I just don't get it.
It is also fact that Kosta Tszyu and Floyd couldn't get it on
because Kosta was with Showtime and Floyd was with HBO.
So many facts are there for the people to see for themselves
but they are overlooked because of personal grudges with Floyd.
I will be upset too if he doesn't fight a couple of WW's now that he
is back but people have to understand that Floyd is a business man
and all of this is calculated to give him the upper hand. Anyways,
it is what it is but when/if a Floyd/Pac happens or Floyd/Cotto,
Floyd/Mosley, I am willing to bet that Floyd beats all. I think things
wil start to situate themselves after Pac/Cotto.
What I don't get is why do people try to forget when Mayweather
was coming up looking to hit it big he was calling out everybody
after each fight and no one answered him? I want Floyd to fight
Pac, Mosley and Cotto one after the other but sometimes people
on here be rewriting history like Floyd was scared of everyone but
he has mentioned that he wanted to fight every big name after every
win in his professional boxing career when he was looking to make a
name for himself in the sport and none of the big names gave him
a shot or even said his name in an interview. I feel like there are
always two sides to a coin and when it comes to Mayweather, all
many see is just one side and to me that's wack.
If your going to try to present facts or bring up the past then
mention everything in a whole but don't try to make everything
up to support your accusations and or claims and bash others for
presenting real hard evidence. Truth be told that Cotto was hidden
by Arum at 140 from Floyd, Floyd wanted to fight Margarito but
wanted a 10Mil guarantee on future fights with Cotto/Hatton,
a lot of people were up in the air about who would win the
Baldomir/Floyd fight including top WW's like Paul Williams and
Antonio Margarito because of size and weight. All this stuff
is documented but yet people tend to forget it to make themselves
right or influence people to believe that Floyd ducked these guys?
I just don't get it.
It is also fact that Kosta Tszyu and Floyd couldn't get it on
because Kosta was with Showtime and Floyd was with HBO.
So many facts are there for the people to see for themselves
but they are overlooked because of personal grudges with Floyd.
I will be upset too if he doesn't fight a couple of WW's now that he
is back but people have to understand that Floyd is a business man
and all of this is calculated to give him the upper hand. Anyways,
it is what it is but when/if a Floyd/Pac happens or Floyd/Cotto,
Floyd/Mosley, I am willing to bet that Floyd beats all. I think things
wil start to situate themselves after Pac/Cotto.
The reason that the big name fighters ignored him is because he fought bull**** fights like Brusseles, Corley, and NDou. I'm not saying that those guys are horrible opponents except for Brusseles, but Mayweather didn't break into the main stream until his fight with Gatti. You can't expect guys like Mosley and a green prospect like Cotto to take a fight with him for peanuts all the while he didn't even win a title at 140 until he beat Gatti. Right now Mayweather is turning down Shane Mosley while Mosley is coming off one of the biggest wins in his career and is ranked over Mayweather at the moment. If that's not a duck I don't know what is.
What I don't get is why do people try to forget when Mayweather
was coming up looking to hit it big he was calling out everybody
after each fight and no one answered him? I want Floyd to fight
Pac, Mosley and Cotto one after the other but sometimes people
on here be rewriting history like Floyd was scared of everyone but
he has mentioned that he wanted to fight every big name after every
win in his professional boxing career when he was looking to make a
name for himself in the sport and none of the big names gave him
a shot or even said his name in an interview. I feel like there are
always two sides to a coin and when it comes to Mayweather, all
many see is just one side and to me that's wack.
If your going to try to present facts or bring up the past then
mention everything in a whole but don't try to make everything
up to support your accusations and or claims and bash others for
presenting real hard evidence. Truth be told that Cotto was hidden
by Arum at 140 from Floyd, Floyd wanted to fight Margarito but
wanted a 10Mil guarantee on future fights with Cotto/Hatton,
a lot of people were up in the air about who would win the
Baldomir/Floyd fight including top WW's like Paul Williams and
Antonio Margarito because of size and weight. All this stuff
is documented but yet people tend to forget it to make themselves
right or influence people to believe that Floyd ducked these guys?
I just don't get it.
It is also fact that Kosta Tszyu and Floyd couldn't get it on
because Kosta was with Showtime and Floyd was with HBO.
So many facts are there for the people to see for themselves
but they are overlooked because of personal grudges with Floyd.
I will be upset too if he doesn't fight a couple of WW's now that he
is back but people have to understand that Floyd is a business man
and all of this is calculated to give him the upper hand. Anyways,
it is what it is but when/if a Floyd/Pac happens or Floyd/Cotto,
Floyd/Mosley, I am willing to bet that Floyd beats all. I think things
wil start to situate themselves after Pac/Cotto.
Mayweather may be right....but he also may be wrong. It's an undeniable fact that for most of his career he couldn't even half fill a 4,000 seat arena. I'm not sure but I think only a fight or three before the Oscar fight, he was a zero draw.
His strong point was always his mouth, not his boxing expertise, no matter how skilled he is, and he very carefully picked as his opponents only those he felt certain he'd beat.
I recall very well his fight with Diego Corrales, which actually brought him to my attention, as well as to the attention of the boxing public. I saw immediately his reason for fighting Corrales, who, it should be known, was the favourite to beat him. The average fight fan is not aware, but Mayweather very carefully set the stage for this fight. He chose Corrales, nearly 6 ft.tall, who had already left the 130 lb. division, and was walking around at about 150 or more, was in desperate trouble with the Law, was penniless and thirsty for money to pay his legal expenses, had a very bad matrimonial situation, and actually was due to go to jail for 2 years immediately after the fight.
Corrales, being questioned about his weight problems, when asked why he'd take such an unsuitable fight, said that "he made me an offer I couldn't refuse". He spent his training time in just trying to shed the weight, was overweight on the first weigh in, and had spent most of the previous day in a sweat box. As T.K. Stewart wrote, "when I saw Corrales, his skin grey, every rib showing, and looking like death, could hardly stand, I knew right away he had no chance of winning" (paraphrasing).
Later, Larry Merchant was talking about having seen Corrales in his dressing room, just before the fight, stuffing down a huge hamburger.
The point I'm making is that Mayweather will NEVER make a fight with anyone he is not certain, for whatever reason (which of course is not known to the casual fan) of winning and he's pretty good at prognosticating.
Oscar used to do the same thing, but not as well, so he often lost fights he was sure he'd win. So....Mayweather should be a sure thing, if you want to win some betting money.
With all the talk about the $600,000 that he forfeited, it guaranteed him a certian win, even without all the other advantages, and he could have backed himself to win to make that money back. However, compared to his purse and PPV, it was only a "fleabite", in exchange for a 100% guaranteed win. Smart guy.
I just had to reply to this post.
First off, your breakdown of the Corrales-Mayweather fight is not how it went down (even down to the point that you said Corrales stuffed down a huge hamburger before the fight... it was a chicken sandwich).
Diego Corrales was the betting favorite over Mayweather for a reason. The public demanded to see Floyd face the best Jr. Lightweight in the world, Diego Corrales.
The drums were already beating around the boxing community that Floyd was ducking Corrales (in the same fashion the drums are roaring now about shane mosley).
Corrales was NOT a handpicked opponent. If you don't believe that then you tell me what bigger threats or more popular names were in the division. The only two other guys out there were Popo and Joel Casamayor. Corrales was held in a higher esteem than both of those guys.
Again, Corrales was not a handpicked opponent. My last point that I wanted to make regarding Corrales is this: if 130 was such a hard weight for Corrales to make... then why did he do TWO YEARS of prison and still return to boxing at 130??
Floyd Mayweather Jr. has said a few times that there is nothing to gain by taking a fight with Shane Mosley, but that hasn't stopped him from dishing out some more verbal abuse in Shane's direction. During a recent interview with CBS Sports, Mayweather really took aim at Mosley by calling him a jealous fighter who may still be using steroids. [details]
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