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    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
    13 pages. IMDAZED on every single one of them.
    Yes I am .

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      Originally posted by VipersThunder View Post
      You don't know any of that. Anything can happen in boxing and styles make fights. Slappy is overrated and all those guys can fight. There is a reason why he fought nothing but **** cans his whole career.
      Sorry dude - I can't see Winky, Taylor or whoever that other guy was beating him. Just can't.

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        Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        Glen Johnson was at his peak during his bouts with Jones & Tarver. I've never heard anyone say different. Yes, he did get better with age
        He was at his peak but he got better with age - so he was more 'in peak?

        but he also slowed down as well. He certainly wasn't as good when he faced Dawson. I'm not sure where you get that from.
        I don't think he slowed down loads and don't think it'd be to a large enough degree Tarver would really take advantage. Johnsons aggressiveness seemed a little more clever against Dawson and for me that would have just been enough to over whelm an older Tarver, as it did a younger, quicker, better Dawson he almost beat.

        As far as Tarver being tested, I'd say Eric Harding, Montel Griffin, Roy Jones and Glen Johnson makes him far better than 99% of Calzaghe's opponents.
        Very good wins I don't disagree. But do any of them beat Calzahe, Hopkins or Jones?

        I agree it would have been good for Joe to get some names like that on his resume as-well, I do it's a shame. But that doesn't mean he's not better than Tarver and those guys. I'm afraid I see Antonio a little like Oscar. A very good fighter whom faced some big names, got some very good wins, but at the absolute top level and against real classy operators, just comes up short quite often.

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          Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
          So what did Calzaghe do to qualify himself as an ATG in your opinion?
          Well he did something nobody else has ever done. He fought the most astonishing amount of **** cans in the history of boxing. He also turned a pathetic WBO title run into something a couple people believe is legitimate. That an accomplishment. If not boxing he should be able to get in the magicians hall of fame.

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            Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
            He was at his peak but he got better with age - so he was more 'in peak?
            His getting better with age peaked with Jones/Tarver IMO. He was old when he fought them too

            I don't think he slowed down loads and don't think it'd be to a large enough degree Tarver would really take advantage. Johnsons aggressiveness seemed a little more clever against Dawson and for me that would have just been enough to over whelm an older Tarver, as it did a younger, quicker, better Dawson he almost beat.
            Well this doesn't contradict what I said...Tarver fought a better version of Johnson.
            Very good wins I don't disagree. But do any of them beat Calzahe, Hopkins or Jones?
            Seeing as how Johnson (and Tarver himself) beat Jones - a much younger one - I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

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              Originally posted by VipersThunder View Post
              Well he did something nobody else has ever done. He fought the most astonishing amount of **** cans in the history of boxing. He also turned a pathetic WBO title run into something a couple people believe is legitimate. That an accomplishment. If not boxing he should be able to get in the magicians hall of fame.
              I don't think Calzaghe is an ATG at all. That's ludicrous. But he's certainly a HOF'er. It's equally ludicrous to say otherwise.

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                Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                Sorry dude - I can't see Winky, Taylor or whoever that other guy was beating him. Just can't.
                Doesn't matter if you see it. You don't get credit for wins unless you fight the fights. Upsets happen all the time and styles make fights.

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                  Originally posted by VipersThunder View Post
                  Doesn't matter if you see it. You don't get credit for wins unless you fight the fights. Upsets happen all the time and styles make fights.
                  Umm...ok. Right on!

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                    Originally posted by VipersThunder View Post
                    Doesn't matter if you see it. You don't get credit for wins unless you fight the fights. Upsets happen all the time and styles make fights.
                    OMG No.Please...not that!

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                      Originally posted by Roger Mellie View Post
                      You pwned me there. The point is conceded!
                      coleman barrett was kicking his ass too.

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