Why didn't Usyk agree to the no rematch clause terms?

[Smash]

greedy belly thought he could extort the saudis for close to 500mil lol, he tried to break the saudi bank (is this even possible i wonder), he will try the same crap when talks come around again for the usyk match in saudi, we all know he will do that, if fury doesnt get what he thinks hes worth for the fight i think he may well throw his toys out of the pram again, A siders make good cash for easy fights, just like fury did this year, fury wants an outstanding saudi bag

[kafkod]

Well put. Usyk's team were only willing to accept 70-30 if it was a two fight deal and they get a better split in the rematch. Removing the rematch clause meant that it would only be one 70-30 fight and that no longer seemed worth it so they walked away.

It took me a while but it makes sense. I think if the offer was 60-40 we probably would've got a fight but when it went down to 70-30 it all fell apart.

What it boiled down to was that Usyk was willing to accept 30% for the first fight ... if he could get 70% in the rematch by winning the first fight.

[kafkod]

greedy belly thought he could extort the saudis for close to 500mil lol, he tried to break the saudi bank (is this even possible i wonder), he will try the same crap when talks come around again for the usyk match in saudi, we all know he will do that, if fury doesnt get what he thinks hes worth for the fight i think he may well throw his toys out of the pram again, A siders make good cash for easy fights, just like fury did this year, fury wants an outstanding saudi bag

I reckon that Fury will be more reasonable after he picks up his bag for beating Ngannou.

He knew the Ngannou fight would be taken off the table if he lost to Usyk and he didn't want to risk losing a huge payday for such an easy night's work.

[Kzbox]

You’re trying real hard to make excuses for Fury, but sure, let’s just assume, for no reason, that Usyk’s team is lying, let’s not use the information available, let’s cherrypick what we want, that way we can give Fury more of the benefit of the doubt.

And I’m sure “all he had to do” was accept 70/30 before “all he had to do” was accept no rematch clause.

Unfortunately boxing fans seem to always expect fighter’s to “just accept” whatever the A-side demands. It’s always “why can’t he gave a little more?”. Lol. Nvm that as a man, you’ll just be left feeling like an idiot if you accept these terms, “wait a minute, I was a three belt champion, I’ve been in million+ buys PPVs, why did I accept less money than before I was the unified heavyweight champion and lost all my titles with no chances at a rematch? Oh yea, I’m an idiot. I should change my name to Ryan”.

Ignore the fact that during negotiations, just 5 weeks before the scheduled date, Fury is fat and pretending to train with Sugarhill, only to be exposed by the man himself. I can already envision the next “all he had to to do” was accept the new date at Tyson’s leisure.

I don’t know how you can say that when i clearly said Fury is to blame too but at the end of the day all Usyk talks about is “i want fury” “for my legacy” ect ect he is already worth 50m + he should of done what it took to get Fury in the ring but he wasn’t settling for 1 payday he wanted the rematch too for a guaranteed double payday with one of the biggest stars in boxing currently (Fury) who is a way bigger name than Usyk whether ppl like that or not it’s fact.

Fury should of have gave in some too but he’s an egotistical mofo these days all I’m saying is Usyk could of got him in the ring if he really wanted to but he got the bag with the Saudis now so doesn’t even care too much if he fights Fury.

[kafkod]

I don’t know how you can say that when i clearly said Fury is to blame too but at the end of the day all Usyk talks about is “i want fury” “for my legacy” ect ect he is already worth 50m + he should of done what it took to get Fury in the ring but he wasn’t settling for 1 payday he wanted the rematch too for a guaranteed double payday with one of the biggest stars in boxing currently (Fury) who is a way bigger name than Usyk whether ppl like that or not it’s fact.

Fury should of have gave in some too but he’s an egotistical mofo these days all I’m saying is Usyk could of got him in the ring if he really wanted to but he got the bag with the Saudis now so doesn’t even care too much if he fights Fury.

I understand where you're coming from with that. But if Fury had no intention of fighting on that date there was nothing Usyk could have done to force him into going through with it. Fury vs Ngannou didn't get made in a couple weeks. They will have been planning it behind the scenes for months. That's why Fury was being so difficult with Usyk. His aim was always to fight Ngannou before risking losing his "0" and world title against Usyk.

[JakeTheBoxer]

I would actually believe Fury a little bit more if Fury was scheduled to fight a top 10 contender next.

But now it is pretty mush obvious that he just took the first way out so that he can fight a bum.

[IronDanHamza]

Fury refused to donate anything to the Ukrainian charity. Usyk's promoter said that if he revealed why, it would destroy Fury's reputation for ever.

I think Usyk was ready to to fight in the UK if he'd got what he was asking for, but Fury had no intention of going through with it.

Where was that said?

Alex Krasack (sp) and Frank Warren were both on Talk Sport at the same time and they said that the £1million donation to Ukraine was accepted and they both confirmed that on air so I don’t exactly know what you’re talking about there.

[IronDanHamza]

- - Danny Hambone thinking Blubber the A side vs all everything now war hero Usyk the epitome of are arrested infantile development.

Facts are Usyk made Blubber syk w/o throwing a single punch.

Blubber still quaking over his career purse AJ ducks…priceless…

Are we living in some bizarro world here where Fury isn’t the very clear and obvious A side against Usyk?

You’re aware Uysk accepted 30% of the purse right? What reason do you think that might be?

[Kzbox]

I understand where you're coming from with that. But if Fury had no intention of fighting on that date there was nothing Usyk could have done to force him into going through with it. Fury vs Ngannou didn't get made in a couple weeks. They will have been planning it behind the scenes for months. That's why Fury was being so difficult with Usyk. His aim was always to fight Ngannou before risking losing his "0" and world title against Usyk.

Well maybe you're right i'm just saying i don't take any side as gospel and think they both partly to blame but maybe Fury wanted to secure the bag with Francis before risking his 0 against Usyk which would put a damper on the whole thing if he lost. Let's just hope the fight happens after that circus show with Francis is over with i won't even bother watching that bs.

[kafkod]

Where was that said?

Alex Krasack (sp) and Frank Warren were both on Talk Sport at the same time and they said that the £1million donation to Ukraine was accepted and they both confirmed that on air so I don’t exactly know what you’re talking about there.

After the Usyk vs Dubois London presser, Krassyuk said that Fury had refused to donate anything to Usyk's charity.