Why didn't Usyk agree to the no rematch clause terms?

[QueensburyRules]

- - Danny Hambone thinking Blubber the A side vs all everything now war hero Usyk the epitome of are arrested infantile development.

Facts are Usyk made Blubber syk w/o throwing a single punch.

Blubber still quaking over his career purse AJ ducks…priceless…

[Kzbox]

They are both to blame for the fight not happening Fury made it difficult but Usyk walked away over the rematch clause they say all these things Usyk gave in to but like what? the 70 - 30 was slightly a rip off 60 - 40 would be more fair but what else did he "give in to" people complaining Fury didn't have faith in himself but ultimately Usyk was rematch or bust.

[Toffee]

That is not the correct analogy because the $15 product is not different to the first one. If you want to use the same analogy, here is what it sounds like: I want to sell you two products, $10 each, but he second one is optional and you have two choices.

Option 1: I give you 30% discount, so you pay me $7 for the first product and we are done with the deal. No second product involved.
Option 2: I give you 30% discount on the first product, so you pay $7 for it. For the second, we both have the option to buy/sell it. If I force you to buy, I will offer 50% discount so you pay me $5 but if you force me to sell, then I will only offer a 20% discount so you will have to pay $8.

What are you smoking? Makes less than zero sense mate. It's gobbledy****.

Even your Option 1 starting point of giving a 30% discount is nonsense. Why are you offering a discount with no further business?

The second one just doesn't make any sense. Now the buyer is selling to you?

What I will agree with is that the second product shouldn't be identical. The rematch split being discussed is the one where Usyk is the undisputed champion... but I was trying to keep it simple.

[SplitSecond]

Why would Usyk agree to 70/30 and no rematch clause? First it was 50/50 and Fury wanted a rematch clause, then he’s demanding 70/30, and now that Usyk agreed to that he laughs in his face and calls him an idiot for agreeing to it (seems like someone that wants the fight) and now has a new demand, to remove the rematch clause that he initially called for. Do you not see how the longer negotiations went the more Fury is trying to **** over Usyk? Fury is a btch.

Unless guys come out and just straight up say “I don’t want to fight” people will find room for excuses. Nvm. People will find room for excuses even if it’s blatantly stated. As Spence/PBC etc has said numerous times in regards to Crawford.

[SplitSecond]

They are both to blame for the fight not happening Fury made it difficult but Usyk walked away over the rematch clause they say all these things Usyk gave in to but like what? the 70 - 30 was slightly a rip off 60 - 40 would be more fair but what else did he "give in to" people complaining Fury didn't have faith in himself but ultimately Usyk was rematch or bust.

They aren’t. Fury was not even willing to negotiate or talk things over as stated by Usyk’s promoter numerous times. He was just making demands from his ivory tower. Another great tactic to derail a fight via blatant disrespect.

[Kzbox]

They aren’t. Fury was not even willing to negotiate or talk things over as stated by Usyk’s promoter numerous times. He was just making demands from his ivory tower. Another great tactic to derail a fight via blatant disrespect.

They would say that but what else needed to be negotiated? he accepted the 70 - 30 all he had left to do was accept the no rematch clause we only have Usyks sides word for that i don't believe any of them 100%. I think Usyks team were in talks with Saudi at the same time and realized it wasn't worth the effort when they can make much more in Saudi versus other people not named Fury so decided to walk away.

As i say i blame both of them tbh so i'm not even taking sides just sucks for us fans for not getting the fight but can still happen down the line with the Saudis overpaying everybody.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Usyk sent gypsy bum to retirement without throwing a single punch. What a warrior.

[ShoulderRoll]

Usyk has earned 3 of the 4 belts.

Why would he put himself at risk of losing them without having a rematch clause? Look at how many such clauses Anthony Joshua has had and how they have kept him earning huge paydays even after losing twice.

[kafkod]

They agreed to donate the £1 million so that wasn’t an issue.

The last point I agree with but surely Usyk’s team has to hold as much accountability there?

Fury refused to donate anything to the Ukrainian charity. Usyk's promoter said that if he revealed why, it would destroy Fury's reputation for ever.

I think Usyk was ready to to fight in the UK if he'd got what he was asking for, but Fury had no intention of going through with it.

[SplitSecond]

They would say that but what else needed to be negotiated? he accepted the 70 - 30 all he had left to do was accept the no rematch clause we only have Usyks sides word for that i don't believe any of them 100%. I think Usyks team were in talks with Saudi at the same time and realized it wasn't worth the effort when they can make much more in Saudi versus other people not named Fury so decided to walk away.

As i say i blame both of them tbh so i'm not even taking sides just sucks for us fans for not getting the fight but can still happen down the line with the Saudis overpaying everybody.

You’re trying real hard to make excuses for Fury, but sure, let’s just assume, for no reason, that Usyk’s team is lying, let’s not use the information available, let’s cherrypick what we want, that way we can give Fury more of the benefit of the doubt.

And I’m sure “all he had to do” was accept 70/30 before “all he had to do” was accept no rematch clause.

Unfortunately boxing fans seem to always expect fighter’s to “just accept” whatever the A-side demands. It’s always “why can’t he gave a little more?”. Lol. Nvm that as a man, you’ll just be left feeling like an idiot if you accept these terms, “wait a minute, I was a three belt champion, I’ve been in million+ buys PPVs, why did I accept less money than before I was the unified heavyweight champion and lost all my titles with no chances at a rematch? Oh yea, I’m an idiot. I should change my name to Ryan”.

Ignore the fact that during negotiations, just 5 weeks before the scheduled date, Fury is fat and pretending to train with Sugarhill, only to be exposed by the man himself. I can already envision the next “all he had to to do” was accept the new date at Tyson’s leisure.