Comments Thread For: Arum Says He Will Offer Haney Three Options: Taylor-Lopez Winner, Stevenson, and Lomachenko Rematch

[Monty Fisto]

Negative. I also didnt say that being the better fighter isnt enough.

1. I didnt say he was the better fighter.
2. I did say he didnt do enough.

Simple. All cleared up. You feel like he beat Haney. That's fine. But this was no blowout.

My point is he shouldve done more, to make it clear. He didnt press when it seems like he couldve finished haney, or got a kd at east. He stalled his action too much.

That allowed Haney to stay in there and keep throwing, which he did. And lomas ribs looked like burger for it.

so give the win to whomever you like; its a debate. Nothing like his match vs Nakatani or even Linares or Campbell. We know who won those, and nobody argued.

Therefore, he didnt do enough to make it clear.

I know you didn't say he was the better fighter! But you did say he didn't do enough... You even say it again in your last line: "Therefore, he didn't do enough to make it clear."

This is what I disagree with. You have two fighters competing. The W should go to the one who hits cleaner, who controls the fight, the one has the other fighter in trouble. For any objective observer, it was clear that Haney was troubled more by Loma than Loma was by Haney. The body shots argument doesn't hold water as if those punches were effective, Haney wouldn't have found himself clinging on in the championship rounds.

The argument that Loma didn't do enough to make it clear is unpersuasive; if the same criterion is applied to Haney, a neutral observer would have to conclude that Haney did less to justify a victory than Loma, unless "managing to not get stopped" is doing enough to get a clear victory.

[LG Motel 22]

He needs to fight tank while he still can, cash out and if he loses he can say I struggled with the weight lala the usual carry on.

[buddyr]

No Tank? He's the scariest one of the bunch.

Tank is in jail

[BustedKnuckles]

I know you didn't say he was the better fighter! But you did say he didn't do enough... You even say it again in your last line: "Therefore, he didn't do enough to make it clear."

This is what I disagree with. You have two fighters competing. The W should go to the one who hits cleaner, who controls the fight, the one has the other fighter in trouble. For any objective observer, it was clear that Haney was troubled more by Loma than Loma was by Haney. The body shots argument doesn't hold water as if those punches were effective, Haney wouldn't have found himself clinging on in the championship rounds.

The argument that Loma didn't do enough to make it clear is unpersuasive; if the same criterion is applied to Haney, a neutral observer would have to conclude that Haney did less to justify a victory than Loma, unless "managing to not get stopped" is doing enough to get a clear victory.

I dont have any more time for this. I dont care if you think he won; you're entitled to your view. I dont think he did enough to make it clear, konetz.

[Monty Fisto]

I dont have any more time for this. I dont care if you think he won; you're entitled to your view. I dont think he did enough to make it clear, konetz.

Fair enough.

[The Big Dunn]

Who is the most lucrative opponent? If you're talking about Tank then that's dumb as ****. Why would he offer that? How many cross promotion fights have there been in the last 3 years? You can count them less than two hands. That'd be like PBC saying sign with us and we can get you a fight for the heavyweight championship with Usyk or Fury when they don't even have those guys signed.

You’re missing the point.

If the sales pitch to re-sign doesn’t include the possibility of the most lucrative fight, then its all media BS to deflect from the fact he has no plans to resign Haney at all because he wants Haney to move up and drop the belts so he can get his guys in title fights.

Well all except the WBA.