Comments Thread For: Fury Overcomes Two Knockdowns, Drops Wilder Three Times For Knockout in Eleven

[Monty Fisto]

Credit where credit is due: Wilder has tremendous heart. He looked like he was ready to go several times halfway through the fight but managed to survive through guts, endurance and determination.

The better man won. The fast superior boxer. Wilder's ability to hang in there gave him a chance of hitting that jackpot right hand (and he almost pulled off the upset with that 10-7 round), but Fury also has tremendous heart. Once he weathered that particular storm, it was all going one way. Wilder made a strategic error in coming in heavy and not expecting the general pattern to be similar to the second fight. He fell back into the familar bad habit of ignoring the jab and looking for that big right and he never found a way to remedy his fatal flaw (discovered by Fury in the final round of the first fight) that all his offensive danger is neutralised if you back him up, keep close and fight on the inside.

[ruedboy]

Someone explain to me why these ****** articles always go backwards on highlights? This seems like the most ridiculous thing every time I read them.

True, but you have to realize as far as sports writers go, boxing is as low as you go before covering senior shuffleboard tournaments.

[DougalDylan]

I've followed Fury before you ever heard of him, even appreciated the horrible Klitschko fight and enjoyed it but he's just fought the same limited boxer 3 times. Wilder hasn't won a fight in years now.
I hope Fury does Whyte next that'll be a scrap and yeah I got Fury but Whyte should be able to cause him problems while it lasts, Furys problem has always been
getting up for smaller fights.

What is unfortunate is we have been watching the two best heavyweights go at it - it’s comical that people agree AJ and Usyk have to get beat before he’s considered an ATG. AJ?? Seriously ??? He’s the British Michael Grant . Usyk wouldn’t last three. Unless some of the young guys like J Anderson shoot up the rankings quickly, the division is gonna be a snooze fest for a long time Tyson Fury is by far the best heavyweight followed by a distant second Wilder.

[P to the J]

of course everything is on paper at first, all predictions are on paper. Doesn’t stop us from making intellectual fight analysis on how fights would actually go base on the facts and evidences that we got.
your basis that wilder is no good is because he hasn’t fought anyone good “on paper” except a highly rated ortiz and fury, yet you’re a fan of joshua who lost to guys he supposed to beat and had all the major advatanges over on paper.
Clearly that paper has some basis and evidences why it is written in the first place.

wilder is on top of the heavy weight ranks because nobody was knocking them people out like he did left and right. If you think it’s easy to just avoid his right hand then why was he able to land 4 knockdowns against a guy who easily outboxed Klitchko? Same guy joshua fought and had a life and death fight a year later?

do you think joshua will stand up against wilder’s right hand when he’s getting chin check by lesser powerful guys? Or you think usyk and ruiz are more powerful? Again i’d love to hear your fight breakdown on paper, whatever. Just wanna hear your analysis.

where’s wilder on your heavyweight ranks? Do you think he should be rated lower than ruiz? And joshua?

what? I’m sorry, from which bit of this have you assumed that I’m a Joshua fan?

In simple terms, my analysis of the ‘top fighters’ from their career best results is:

Fury > Wilder,
Fury > 39 yr old Wladimir,
Joshua > 41 yr old Wladimir,
Usyk > Joshua
Wilder > Ortiz

The strongest assumptions I make are that Fury is definitely better than Wilder after 3 fights and Wilder is definitely better than Ortiz after 2 fights. The others are based on singular fights and therefore, are subject to other variables, but are still worthwhile assumptions.

The rest? Is just guesswork. Sure, I’ve got opinions. I think no version of Joshua beats Usyk; I think Fury beats everyone bar Usyk, who I assume will be wise to his spoiling and touch him all night; I think joshua, despite his low ring IQ, is still ‘better’ than Wilder, and think he wins.

But, so what? I like propagating theories and I like hearing them, but they’re just that: theories. I can’t sit here and declare it done. These guys need to actually fight (and/or fight again).

Where do I rank Wilder? No idea. I don’t rate his skill set, but doesn’t mean he can’t beat everyone else in the division. Equally, just because he was undefeated before fury and you guys all seem to rate him, doesn’t mean he can.

[Tecnoworld]

Goat Fury.

Anyway wilder would beat aj, unfortunately he never had an opportunity to show that.

[Roberto Vasquez]

What is unfortunate is we have been watching the two best heavyweights go at it - it’s comical that people agree AJ and Usyk have to get beat before he’s considered an ATG. AJ?? Seriously ??? He’s the British Michael Grant . Usyk wouldn’t last three. Unless some of the young guys like J Anderson shoot up the rankings quickly, the division is gonna be a snooze fest for a long time Tyson Fury is by far the best heavyweight followed by a distant second Wilder.

What are you talking about? Fury now has ONE title defence but still have only fought ONE top-10 Heavyweight in almost 6 years. How does that make him an ATG? An ATG at self-promotion maybe. Usyk only just got into the HW division and he has more belts than Fury....

[Roberto Vasquez]

Goat Fury.

Anyway wilder would beat aj, unfortunately he never had an opportunity to show that.

Well he did have an opportunity. He *literally* said he turned AJ down to fight Fury. He said AJ was chasing him and offered him more money but he fought Fury instead.

Wilder must be kicking himself - he chose what seemed like a easy fight in a retired Fury but a big name. Now most people think Wilder would KO AJ. Wilder could have unified all the belts.

[Papirico52]

So people are now making scenarios where Wilder would have been undisputed LMFAO

[Luilun]

In Truth Wilder has lost 3 straight fights who’s next to knock out Wilder

[dibzvincent143]

First, Wilder just lost his 30th round and got ktfo twice. Second, without question Joshua blasts out every Wilder opponent not named Fury. In order to know where Wilder fits he first needs to fight Joshua, Ruiz, Wyhte, Parker, Usyk...or any fighter with a few skills that's not in their 40's on the down side..

Lets not forget, Joshua offered Wilder 100 million and Wilder turned it down to fight what he thought was an out of shape burned out junky. As it turned out, that out of shape junky was someone Wilder shouldn't have ***ed with.

What makes you think wilder wouldn’t blast out guys who defeated joshua? When they were ranked way lower than wilder as a heavyweight when they fought him. You can assume that joshua can KO all of wilder’s opponents, but can’t atleast consider that wilder can touch Joshua’s chin when lesser opponents already have.

I wouldn’t go on the who’s who of why the fight didn’t happen as i don’t have intensive knowledge on the matter but i can remember joshua telling his fans to fight wilder themselves. Lmao.