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    #81
    Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey View Post

    So Gayweather never cheated because he never got caught? Is that how it works? They should've been better at masking.
    You guys mentioning Floyd look really weak. This is about Valdez. You can’t defend him by pointing to a black boxer.

    Floyd didn’t test positive like Canelo and Valdez. That is just a fact you have to deal with.

    Floyd is accused based on “rumors” from someone paid by the guy that used to employ Floyd, who refused to provide proof of rumors when called on it.

    See the difference?

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      #82
      Originally posted by TheBoxGod View Post
      Good. Its was the correct call.

      What Valdez tested for is not a banned substance for athletes to ingest its only an in-competition bann which means its only not allowed for the actual competition event. (similar to marijuana, caffine in above a certain dosage etc.)

      Vada who are just a facilitator with no research or investigation department are the only organization who has it on there banned list at all times. Wada the standard for all other organization who do have a research department, investigation department, and are responsible for putting vada biggest cheer leader Victor Conte in prison for his PED violations do not have what Valdez tested for in their banned list for out of competition use.

      Vada is a new Organization trying to make a buzz around themselves however only boxing has embraced them because it is spear headed by former ringside physician Margaret Goodman. So how does a new organization makes a buzz? they try to bust more people than other organization, But how do they do that? they add over 70 substances that are not banned by any organization (including wada) for out of competition use into the banned substance list so they can "LOOK" like they are busting more people when infact they are not.

      Had valdez been tested by any other organization in the world he would not have had a failed test.


      Um No. You dont have a clue what you are talking about. He was busted for an amphetamine which most basic employment tests would have even found in their screener tests. It is a controlled substance amphetamine specifically used for weight loss and cutting. This isnt a masking agent or a nasal spray (which are weight cutters). Phentermine would have given a false positive for meth, or any number of other amphetamines and then they would find it in the follow on mass spectro test.

      There is no real excuse for Oscar here, he cant say oh it was in my protein shake or oh I accidentally took a prescription only amphetamine. Or oh I bought it off the shelf at walmart. And its performance and use case is clear: Oscar needed to drop some fat to make weight.

      That they waived this is a joke because they would wave anything base on WHO you are not WHAT the substance is. Why do we even have PED testing if they arent going to do anythign with a positive result? just cancel all PED testing because everyone is on them anyways.

      Amphetamines only have a few day detection window. Oscar's team thought they could sneak some in and not get caught.

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        #83
        Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey View Post

        You sound like a ****** ******* using that term. It's mainy Latinos that are saying things about blacks. And it's mainly because blacks are always the first ones to talk negative about every race and are the first ones to cry victim.
        No it’s because the go to defense for white supremacists, which sadly you and other Latino posters have employed in this thread, is to point to someone black when a guy from your demographic gets caught cheating or doing something criminal or illegal.

        That you think that absolves Valdez because he tested positive is sad.

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          #84
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

          No it’s because the go to defense for white supremacists, which sadly you and other Latino posters have employed in this thread, is to point to someone black when a guy from your demographic gets caught cheating or doing something criminal or illegal.

          That you think that absolves Valdez because he tested positive is sad.
          It's the black supremacists with their black privilege that make you people say racist things about everyone else and cry victim when you get called on it.

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            #85
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

            You guys mentioning Floyd look really weak. This is about Valdez. You can’t defend him by pointing to a black boxer.

            Floyd didn’t test positive like Canelo and Valdez. That is just a fact you have to deal with.

            Floyd is accused based on “rumors” from someone paid by the guy that used to employ Floyd, who refused to provide proof of rumors when called on it.

            See the difference?
            Plant looks weaker by calling out Canelo who has nothing to do with Valdez.

            The only reason Gayweather never tested positive is because he masked them real good like Lance Armstrong and had the NSAC in his back pocket.

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              #86
              Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey View Post

              It's the black supremacists with their black privilege that make you people say racist things about everyone else and cry victim when you get called on it.
              As this thread shows the only thing that causes racist responses from you and others is pointing out the truth about a boxer that tested positive.

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                #87
                Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey View Post

                Plant looks weaker by calling out Canelo who has nothing to do with Valdez.

                The only reason Gayweather never tested positive is because he masked them real good like Lance Armstrong and had the NSAC in his back pocket.
                They have the same trainer and Canelo has a positive test. Yes he could’ve taken the high road and said nothing.

                The only reason canelo and Valdez tested positive is because they used illegal substances.

                Pointing at Floyd doesn’t absolve either.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                  As this thread shows the only thing that causes racist responses from you and others is pointing out the truth about a boxer that tested positive.
                  As this thread shows the only thing that causes racist responses from you people is when a Mexican boxer test positive for a banned substance. When it's a black fighter, there's nothing but silence from you people.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                    They have the same trainer and Canelo has a positive test. Yes he could’ve taken the high road and said nothing.

                    The only reason canelo and Valdez tested positive is because they used illegal substances.

                    Pointing at Floyd doesn’t absolve either.
                    One has nothing to do with the other. If one of Gayweather's entourage was to break into a person's house, would Gayweather also get the blame? It's not like Canelo and Valdez live together.

                    What Canelo had in his system is no longer illegal.

                    Gayweather mastered how to mask his PEDs.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey View Post

                      As this thread shows the only thing that causes racist responses from you people is when a Mexican boxer test positive for a banned substance. When it's a black fighter, there's nothing but silence from you people.
                      Still trying to deflect with racism. Still hasn’t changed the fact Valdez tested positive.

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