This why boxers shouldn't listen to fans

[siablo14]

I've never been sold on Haney and this fight didn't make me like him anymore than I already didn't.

His power has always been suspect but I find it hilariously ironic how all the same Devin Haney fans making excuses for his pathetic lack of power can criticize someone like Lomachenko for having "pillow fists". Devin Haney is literally punching with pillows on his fists.

Everyone says Devin is a good technician but watching this fight, is he? Dude has a pretty quick jab and that was about it.

Defensively he was suspect all night and got hit with some bombs. I don't think his chin is suspect but I doubt Haney really has that "killer instinct " to fight through adversity. He's not a killer. He wants to outbox you and run circles around you.

He also fought dirty as **** too.. Dude missed a ton of shots and just ended up wrestling Linares for half through fight. Miss a hook? Use your arm to wrap his neck and bring him down. Miss a cross? Use your forearms to smother their face. Not really sure im a fan if Ben Davidson because I've watched 3 guys, Fury, Taylor, Haney, all use these same tactics and I think sometimes they're are more than borderine in terms of legality.

I also think Linares did look a step slower than he had before but the dude came out to fight. His punch output seemed less but I think it was due to the high volume of punches Haney threw combined with the fact he was looking to counter punch most of the fight.

I picked Linares by TKO because Haney couldn't KO a small child and while Linares is chinny I thought he still had the power to turn the fight around which is something Haney doesn't have. Linares was pretty close too!

I suppose there's no chance Haney moves forward against guys who punch because dude is in a no win situation. Doesn't have enough power to trade and not good enough defensively to stay clean for 12 rounds. That's a problem for him considering that most of the top guys at 135 are punchers minus Lomachenko.

Do it Devin! Fight Lomachenko!

So Haney will go out like Quillin?

[-Kev-]

Never forget Rigondeaux.

Yup, great example. He was not only abandoned by his promoter Top Rank but also HBO really did not want him back either. He had zero support from Arum.

But yeah, prize fighters, who make a living off of boxing and aim for big paydays, should not listen to fans about improving their offense. Because fans have nothing to do with a fighter's paychecks and a promoter/network's interest in that fighter. And you know, in order to let your hands go more, you need to turn into Arturo Gatti (rip) with your defense. There's no way a pro boxer can become better offensively and keep his defense intact. We've never seen a fighter like that.

[The Big Dunn]

he could have fought better fighters than them washed up has beens. hes not being avoided, whats there to avoid lol

Ask loma. He’s the one that refused to fight him.

my guess is while dudes like you focus on the last 2 rounds and a few seconds, the teams of the people that will not fight him focus on the first 9 rounds and 2 plus minutes where Haney dominated , according to everyone that saw the fight.

[The Big Dunn]

no one ducked him. that was all marketing on his part. he has dazn and dazn made zero offers to anyone good. dropping the belt cause haney was with dazn doesnt mean ducking. it means i can no longer keep the belt and haney isnt a legit figth right now to try and make. if haney wanted to make the fight he could have made an offer. loma even said that! he said if he makes me a big offer ill fight but if not commey-lopez winner. haney even gets a better split this way...silence. also some more context haney now says he doesnt want to or have to fight loma cause loma just lost. does that sound like a guy who wanted to party with the big boys? a bluff! publicity!

Excuses, excuses. Loma didn’t fight him. If it were the other way around you’d be calling it a duck.

of course he says that now. He’s in a more powerful position. Loma refused to fight him then lost all his titles. So now haney is looking for Teo. Losing does have consequences.

If Loma beats nakatani then maybe he’s back in the picture.

[Madison Boxing]

Ask loma. He’s the one that refused to fight him.

my guess is while dudes like you focus on the last 2 rounds and a few seconds, the teams of the people that will not fight him focus on the first 9 rounds and 2 plus minutes where Haney dominated , according to everyone that saw the fight.

yeah i focused on him hanging on for dear life against some past-it old fighter not long off a 1st round stoppage who was brought in to go a few rounds and make haney look good, not nearly knock him out lmao

[The Big Dunn]

yeah i focused on him hanging on for dear life against some past-it old fighter not long off a 1st round stoppage who was brought in to go a few rounds and make haney look good, not nearly knock him out lmao

But he didn’t knock him out. Haney did survive and got the win. He’s a young fighter that made a tactical mistake late. He overcame it.

The majority of the fight is why guys refuse to fight him. Let’s hope now that he showed vulnerability, the top guys give him a shot.

[Hype job]

But he didn’t knock him out. Haney did survive and got the win. He’s a young fighter that made a tactical mistake late. He overcame it.

The majority of the fight is why guys refuse to fight him. Let’s hope now that he showed vulnerability, the top guys give him a shot.

Haney isn't that guy my friend. He just isn't.

Maybe he was ducked, seen as a high risk low reward, but after that fight the guys who supposedly ducked him will be more than willing to get in there with him.

I know you think it's all about race but it isn't.

Gervonta is that guy, he's black, he would annihilate Haney.

Haney's just not that guy. He doesn't have "it".

[The Big Dunn]

Haney isn't that guy my friend. He just isn't.

Maybe he was ducked, seen as a high risk low reward, but after that fight the guys who supposedly ducked him will be more than willing to get in there with him.

I know you think it's all about race but it isn't.

Gervonta is that guy, he's black, he would annihilate Haney.

Haney's just not that guy. He doesn't have "it".

ok let’s see if the guys are more willing to fight him.

I don’t think anything like that. Please don’t assume that.

Haney is 22. I’m not quite sure what he is yet. I don’t see how anyone can sure.

[Ray*]

Agreed, and i think his father came out and said the same thing. He is young and would learn from it. That's the thing that i like about Floyd Mayweather. The same fans would be using you as gif, i mean people still try and use gifs of ward when he was knocked down, because they have nothing else to you to mock him, they still try to use the clip of Spence getting hurt early in his career against the Ghanaian guy as meme. Fight the way you fight, don't give a toss what the fans think, I see Boo Boo Andradre doing the same thing as well and getting hurt multiple times against Liam Williams, fans are thick, so don't care what they think.