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    #91
    Originally posted by edubb121 View Post
    as much as i love roy jones....bernard hopkins is the smarter fighter. roy relies too much on the physical. bernard hopkins is the most cerebral boxer of our era. him and nasim richardson come up with the blueprints to win time and time again. and lets not forget that bhop is still strong and he counter punches. tarver got a lucky counter on roy and KO'd him. what would happen with a flush, timed, well excuted hook from bhop on rjjs chin???

    oh and whoever said its roy keeping the fight from happening not bernard......roy said it could be a prize fight and the winner would get their 60%. bernard didnt want that. they both deserve 60 but roy more than bernard because of his win. a prize is as good as it gets.
    Once again...B hops "cerebral" smarts have came against WW's and JW's.....lol..come on man

    RJJ been boxing since he was 3 ..was bred into boxing...has won many more accolades than B Hop and as wayyyyyyyyy more accomplishments than Hopkins ...B hop started in his 20's...and has been learning on the GO......ur saying B hop is smarter?...I wil say this...B hop is smarter cause he stayed @ 1 weight class and made fighters come up in weight. B-Hop is an opportunist more than he is a ATG

    B Hop has only fought 2 fighters his entire career bigger than him....

    1 was Tarver who had to lose 30+ lbs from the Rocky Movie...and the other was Calzaghe who beat him....

    Last edited by Jiddu Dali; 09-01-2009, 03:28 PM.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
      Once again...B hops "cerebral" smarts have came against WW's and JW's.....lol..come on man

      RJJ been boxing since he was 3 ..was bred into boxing...has won many more accolades than B Hop and as wayyyyyyyyy more accomplishments than Hopkins ...B hop started in his 20's...and has been learning on the GO....

      B Hop has only fought 2 fighters his entire career bigger than him....

      1 was Tarver who had to lose 30+ lbs from the Rocky Movie...and the other was Calzaghe who beat him....

      Yet he was the underdog in all of these fights... and he whooped every single one of them.

      Bernard beat everyone around him... he cleared out Middleweight for 10 years, and beat a few big names in Oscar and Tito..

      What else was he supposed to do ?

      Move up?

      Well he DID.... he beat Tarver... and then pavlik... who IS the same size as Bernard... as Pavliks camp has been saying he needs to move up because he cant make the weight anymore.

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        #93
        Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
        Yet he was the underdog in all of these fights... and he whooped every single one of them.

        Bernard beat everyone around him... he cleared out Middleweight for 10 years, and beat a few big names in Oscar and Tito..

        What else was he supposed to do ?

        Move up?

        Well he DID.... he beat Tarver... and then pavlik... who IS the same size as Bernard... as Pavliks camp has been saying he needs to move up because he cant make the weight anymore.
        he was the underdog vs tito? Dlh? Pavlik? & winky?

        he beat tarver after he had to lose 30+ lbs of muscle from the Rocky movie

        lol@ Pavlik cant make MW anymore...UR WRONG...why is he staying @ MW.....yet he cant make the weight?

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          #94
          Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
          Once again...B hops "cerebral" smarts have came against WW's and JW's.....lol..come on man

          RJJ been boxing since he was 3 ..was bred into boxing...has won many more accolades than B Hop and as wayyyyyyyyy more accomplishments than Hopkins ...B hop started in his 20's...and has been learning on the GO......ur saying B hop is smarter?...I wil say this...B hop is smarter cause he stayed @ 1 weight class and made fighters come up in weight. B-Hop is an opportunist more than he is a ATG

          B Hop has only fought 2 fighters his entire career bigger than him....

          1 was Tarver who had to lose 30+ lbs from the Rocky Movie...and the other was Calzaghe who beat him....


          why waste your time man...you can smack these hopkins nutthuggers in the face with the truth repeatedly... and they'll still conjure up some amazing excuse...those who know hopkins career is overrated just know...

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            #95
            Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
            he was the underdog vs tito? Dlh? Pavlik? & winky?

            he beat tarver after he had to lose 30+ lbs of muscle from the Rocky movie

            lol@ Pavlik cant make MW anymore...UR WRONG...why is he staying @ MW.....yet he cant make the weight?
            Ahhhh the good old Tarver excuse... yet before the fight, Antonio CLEARLY stated that he was GOOD to GO.. and the weight was NO PROBLEM.

            This is what Pavliks camp has said... not me... they are having trouble making the weight, and they are contemplating moving up.

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              #96
              jones will destroy bhop watch and see bhop knows it to thats why he is scared to fight 60 to the winner 40 to the loser and thats a fair split

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                #97
                Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
                Once again...B hops "cerebral" smarts have came against WW's and JW's.....lol..come on man
                By doing this you are denying the man of his accomplishments and that simply isn't fair. Let's not forget when he was middleweight champ, and undefeated for 10 years, he fought how many former welterweights? Tito and Oscar? That's 2. So all of his other fights were against true middleweights and guys even bigger than himself (like Glen Johnson for example).

                It's pretty gay for you to use this against the man. The simple fact is he has a better resume than 99% of active fighters today. He's accomplished more than 99% of fighters.

                His "biggest" wins were against so called smaller guys because it just so happens that oscar and tito were teh biggest names in the sport. There were no bigger names. And tito was a legit middleweight, as shown in his destruction of joppy. And lets not forget the middleweight tournament was set up so that trinidad would win, which would set up a superfight with Roy Jones at 168.

                RJJ been boxing since he was 3 ..was bred into boxing...has won many more accolades than B Hop and as wayyyyyyyyy more accomplishments than Hopkins
                whoa man, that is debatable. Hopkins 20 title defences, LHW champ over 40 years old, etc.

                Both Jones & Hopkins have accomplished a ton, in their own ways. It's tough to say which is more impressive. They are pretty equal imo.

                B Hop has only fought 2 fighters his entire career bigger than him....
                LMAO you are a dumbfuuck for that one.

                1 was Tarver who had to lose 30+ lbs from the Rocky Movie...and the other was Calzaghe who beat him....
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                Yeah and Glen Johnson the career 168/175 pound fighter was so much smaller right? Segundo Mercado who was like 6'3 was a midget compared to bhop right? lmao you probably have only watched a handful of hopkins fights most likely all post 40 years old. Stop talkin about his career if you don't know anything about it, it only displays your ignorance.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                  Ahhhh the good old Tarver excuse... yet before the fight, Antonio CLEARLY stated that he was GOOD to GO.. and the weight was NO PROBLEM.

                  This is what Pavliks camp has said... not me... they are having trouble making the weight, and they are contemplating moving up.
                  Naw not an Excuse, he gets credit for the WIN...but you as a boxing fan must admit he fought a wounded duck...as he did with DLH, & Winky

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
                    he was the underdog vs tito? Dlh? Pavlik? & winky?
                    He was a 7-1 underdog against Tito.
                    A 4-1 underdog against Tarver.
                    A 4-1 underdogt against Pavlik

                    He was the favorite against Oscar and I think a 2-1 fav against winky

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                      Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
                      Naw not an Excuse, he gets credit for the WIN...but you as a boxing fan must admit he fought a wounded duck...as he did with DLH, & Winky
                      I think I would trust the words out of the ACTUAL fighters mouth.


                      Tarver CLEARLY stated before the fight... he was in "tip top condition and ready to go".

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