Comments Thread For: Francis Ngannou Would Love To Box Tyson Fury: Absolutely, I'm Open To That!

[TMLT87]

Kickboxers have a skillset that translates well. MMA fighters don't, especially ones that lack technique so badly like Ngannou.

Yeah, remember last year when Ngannou KO'd a 76-8 kickboxer in under 20 seconds? or just recently when 75-5 Adesanya got outlanded in every single round by Jan? Cro Cop got his head taken off in MMA multiple times, so did roided to **** K1 GP winner Reem, Saki managed to get KTFO by Khalil ****in Roundtree. Schilt was an MMA fighter who left for kickboxing and became arguably the greatest HW kickboxer of all time etc etc.

[Kannabis Kid]

Yeah, remember last year when Ngannou KO'd a 76-8 kickboxer in under 20 seconds? or just recently when 75-5 Adesanya got outlanded in every single round by Jan? Cro Cop got his head taken off in MMA multiple times, so did roided to **** K1 GP winner Reem, Saki managed to get KTFO by Khalil ****in Roundtree. Schilt was an MMA fighter who left for kickboxing and became arguably the greatest HW kickboxer of all time etc etc.

You just keep listing a bunch of triangle theories that don't make sense dude Ngannou has a punchers chance in boxing but that's about it his stamina is garbage he wouldn't be able to keep up with any top 20 heavyweight because they all have better footwork and punch placement and punch just as hard if not harder. How come Ngannou couldn't KO Miocic in their first fight or Derrick Lewis immediately after? He landed clean shots on both of them in those fights his vaunted power you talk about didn't work there he caught Miocic coming in this past fight fair play I was happy for him because of what he went through to become a champ but you are getting ahead of yourself thinking he would be competitive against the elite heavyweights. You also listed Carlos Takam vs Maldonado who does Takam knock out? He is not a puncher so that's a bad comparison you also forget Stipe was an amateur boxer before he joined MMA so there is a reason his striking is good he learned young.

[TMLT87]

You just keep listing a bunch of triangle theories that don't make sense dude Ngannou has a punchers chance in boxing but that's about it his stamina is garbage he wouldn't be able to keep up with any top 20 heavyweight because they all have better footwork and punch placement and punch just as hard if not harder. How come Ngannou couldn't KO Miocic in their first fight or Derrick Lewis immediately after? He landed clean shots on both of them in those fights his vaunted power you talk about didn't work there he caught Miocic coming in this past fight fair play I was happy for him because of what he went through to become a champ but you are getting ahead of yourself thinking he would be competitive against the elite heavyweights. You also listed Carlos Takam vs Maldonado who does Takam knock out? He is not a puncher so that's a bad comparison you also forget Stipe was an amateur boxer before he joined MMA so there is a reason his striking is good he learned young.

I never said he could be competitive with actual elite HWs, my original post was he'd lose every round vs Fury but could probably hang at Browne, Breazele, Kownacki, Molina, Washington et al level. Is is really so farfetched to think Francis Ngannou might be able to punch out ****ing Eric Molina and Lucas Browne? come on...

[Clegg]

Some interesting points raised.

If Ngannou trained boxing from a young age he could be a top 10 fighter. But if he entered the sport now I don't see him beating anybody of that level. Hard to know where to draw the line exactly, I think he beats Browne but not Rivas.

He is too wild and somebody of that level (Rivas and above)with technique and smarts would take him rounds playing it safe while he burned himself out, then step up the pace and stop him. Yes he's tough, strong etc. but his style is to come at you and take you out quick and guys like that are usually less effective in the second half of a fight. Tyson was, young Foreman was etc. Especially true of somebody who has never fought for that long before. Wilder, even with his flaws, hangs back, picks his moments over a fight. Could Ngannou hold his own boxing with somebody in the top 10 for 8 rounds until the exact moment there was an opening and then land the perfect shot? I don't see it

I think if we see somebody succeed in both sports it will be more of a technician. Holly Holm is the one to do it so far and from what I've seen she beat some boxers and MMA fighters who had more pure talent because her fight IQ is higher, she judges distance, timing very well and her technique is smoother. Ngannou has improved but his performance vs Lewis was poor. And I rate Lewis, he's a top HW who can crack. But Ngannou looked so short on ideas that night. I just don't see him as the type to adjust and adapt quickly.

Somebody like Darnell Boone is an example of how you can be a big puncher but still not be able to translate it into success.

[sicko]

I like Francis but all those Muscles will work against him in boxing. Great MMA Striker though but boxing is just different, their Conditioning and Stamina is different

[rocktop]

sure

maldonado, whoever he is, is an exception, not the rule

lol at you bringing that guy up and thinking you 'got me'

give takam or rivas those small mma gloves and put them in the cage vs that guy, and make sure that guy doesn't know of their background and see what happens

idk wtf you even bringing up cro cop

you are doing mental gymnastics and using some ret@rded triangle theories to prove your point

99.9% of boxing champs took up boxing at a very young age, it took them years to master their craft and polish their punching technique

ngannonu might be bigger than joshua and wilder, he might even be stronger but the punches they throw are more devastating than his because they are precise, accurate and well timed

fcking lol at thinking he could hang with top boxers

McGregor was supposed to be the best striker in the ufc before he fought floyd. the pinching power he displayed in the actual fight was laughable. they were literally pitty pats

what about anderson silva, isn't he one of the greatest ufc strikers and one of the greatest ufc fighters overall? remind me what was his boxing record?

see i have traingle theories too.

My man you do know theres mma fighters with a boxing record who knocked out boxers in boxing. I mean there's an mma/kickboxer who was in the top 30 rankings just 2 years ago. Boxing fans have to stop using Mcgregor as the gauge for k.o power when he barely threw power shots his lone boxing match and his power has looked awful even in mma recently. To be reasonable i think top boxers school mma fighters in boxing but to have your mindset and act like mma fighters with hands and power cant knockout boxers is just being ignorant and fanboyish. A sparring partner of Derick lewis from mma and Wilder gave his experience of both there power saying Wilder is the harder hitter but Lewis is definitely 2nd to any punch he has felt before so that should show the power difference is not as crazy as you think.