Comments Thread For: Francis Ngannou Would Love To Box Tyson Fury: Absolutely, I'm Open To That!

[Szef]

Lmao and you call MMA fans delusional. Reality is he'd easily put together a nice padded undefeated record in boxing like every other HW boxer does, could probably enter the top 10 via exclusively fighting B and C level fighters just like Wilder did. He also likely hits much harder than anyone in boxing other than Wilder and Joshua, and possibly even hits harder than them too given his size + speed.

Boxing cultists need their coping mechanisms when it comes to MMA though. So if it makes you feel better, sure, Dave Allen could beat Francis Ngannou in a fist fight. Lol.

Fcking lol.....

[Rapscallion]

Frances Ngannou is not even in BoxRec.com's database, and yet he wants to box Tyson Fury? Biting off more than you can chew, Frances? Frances, please explore fighting BKFC or perhaps a kangaroo. Better yet, Frances, please fight Jon Jones in a UFC sanctioned match. Stick to what you know and not what you desire. Now if you really want to box professionally, Frances, and not just make a grab at headlines, then I'd suggest starting a boxing career at the appropriate level; however, I don't believe that Dana White and the UFC would permit you to do that.

[Boxing>MMA]

Lmao and you call MMA fans delusional. Reality is he'd easily put together a nice padded undefeated record in boxing like every other HW boxer does, could probably enter the top 10 via exclusively fighting B and C level fighters just like Wilder did. He also likely hits much harder than anyone in boxing other than Wilder and Joshua, and possibly even hits harder than them too given his size + speed.

Boxing cultists need their coping mechanisms when it comes to MMA though. So if it makes you feel better, sure, Dave Allen could beat Francis Ngannou in a fist fight. Lol.

That should give you an idea how much harder Joshua, Wilder but even guys like Chisora etc. punch than Ngannou. Ngannou scores so many kos, cause he fights in 4 oz gloves, is allowed to follow a hurt fighter to the ground, and he is fighting absolut novices in terms of boxing. Joshua punches literally 1,5 times as hard at least. Ngannou would get killd in boxing, and man i pray that he gives it a shot. i actually like the guy, but the laughable delusion some mma fans are under is annoying.

[TMLT87]

That should give you an idea how much harder Joshua, Wilder but even guys like Chisora etc. punch than Ngannou. Ngannou scores so many kos, cause he fights in 4 oz gloves, is allowed to follow a hurt fighter to the ground, and he is fighting absolut novices in terms of boxing. Joshua punches literally 1,5 times as hard at least. Ngannou would get killd in boxing, and man i pray that he gives it a shot. i actually like the guy, but the laughable delusion some mma fans are under is annoying.

Not sure what you think those carefully timestamped videos featuring 5 seconds of padwork (which can be done at various intensities and with someone in various stages of exhaustion) is supposed to prove. Obviously Joshua is the crisper puncher but Ngannou was 263lbs in his last fight, AJ was 240. If you think honestly Joshua is hitting people "1.5 times as hard" you're deluding yourself, that kind of power would be putting people in comas. I'm not denying AJ hits hard, but he couldnt take out a 48 year old ex-kickboxer and 0-1 MMA fighter Matt Skelton inside a round. Again, the insecure hyperbole and exaggerations to make boxers sound superhuman in comparison to fighters from another sport where punching is also a major part are just silly. A punch is a punch.

Ngannou wouldnt get "killed" in boxing, he just wouldnt be elite.

[TMLT87]

Fcking lol.....

Can you explain this..

How come Takam (and Rivas) cant stop a 40 year old Fabio Maldonado when Stipe did it to a prime version in 35 seconds? I mean we are in agreement that Takam and Rivas are decent right? Rivas is currently top 10 ranked and stopped Jennings a month after that fight.


Could you also explain why Jarrell Miller is not only failing to KO 40 year old Cro Cop (who left the UFC a couple of years earlier off the back of 3 straight KO losses) but actually lost...twice. And then went on to be undefeated in boxing, entered the top 10 and was initially scheduled to be AJs opponent in 2019 before he was busted for PEDs?

For reference...this is what some MMA fighters have done to him before an undefeated top 10 ranked boxer and title contender to AJ failed to KO him in a pure striking match...


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I thought you said basically all boxers have Ngannou-esque power or better, even in gloves?

[Boxing>MMA]

Not sure what you think those carefully timestamped videos featuring 5 seconds of padwork (which can be done at various intensities and with someone in various stages of exhaustion) is supposed to prove. Obviously Joshua is the crisper puncher but Ngannou was 263lbs in his last fight, AJ was 240. If you think honestly Joshua is hitting people "1.5 times as hard" you're deluding yourself, that kind of power would be putting people in comas. I'm not denying AJ hits hard, but he couldnt take out a 48 year old ex-kickboxer and 0-1 MMA fighter Matt Skelton inside a round. Again, the insecure hyperbole and exaggerations to make boxers sound superhuman in comparison to fighters from another sport where punching is also a major part are just silly. A punch is a punch.

Ngannou wouldnt get "killed" in boxing, he just wouldnt be elite.

They are not carefully timestamped. you can simply look up random videos about the 2. ngannou never seems like an extraordinary puncher once he wears big gloves. have you ever put on a pair of ufc gloves? they are as hard as a piece of iron. its soooo much easier to hurt someone in those gloves. and yes a guy like Joshua or Wilder would put people into a coma if they hit them clean. power is mass times speed. the speed difference between joshua and ngannou is so big, that those 20 lbs of weight difference wont close the gap between the 2 at all. im not saying they are superhumans. its just logic that someone who has been training his punching power for 15 years and who ison top of a sport with a deeper talent pool will punch a lot harder than someone who competes in a sport where punching is 30% of their skillset. Ngannou would be in the upper 25 percentile in terms of power if compared to the Top 50 HW in the world. but thats it.

[Fair Shake]

These MMA guys always call out boxers.. it's never the other way around. It's ashame they make no money in UFC. The fact that Dana White offered Jon Jones only $10 million for the biggest heavyweight fight possible is ridiculous. But in boxing AJ/Fury is looking like a $500 billion fight.

[TMLT87]

These MMA guys always call out boxers.. it's never the other way around.

Fury, Crawford and Shields are 3 recent ones.

[TMLT87]

They are not carefully timestamped. you can simply look up random videos about the 2. ngannou never seems like an extraordinary puncher once he wears big gloves. have you ever put on a pair of ufc gloves? they are as hard as a piece of iron. its soooo much easier to hurt someone in those gloves. and yes a guy like Joshua or Wilder would put people into a coma if they hit them clean. power is mass times speed. the speed difference between joshua and ngannou is so big, that those 20 lbs of weight difference wont close the gap between the 2 at all. im not saying they are superhumans. its just logic that someone who has been training his punching power for 15 years and who ison top of a sport with a deeper talent pool will punch a lot harder than someone who competes in a sport where punching is 30% of their skillset. Ngannou would be in the upper 25 percentile in terms of power if compared to the Top 50 HW in the world. but thats it.

This is a fairer post that I dont disagree with so much. At least you admit Ngannou would be an above average puncher in boxing too, its a start.

Boxing is an important part of MMA, its the highest percentage way of winning a fight. They train it hours a day, in boxing gloves, with boxing coaches and often spar with actual boxers. Obviously boxers at equivalent level are superior at boxing, water is also wet. But some boxing fans are way too eager to exaggerate the gap because they loathe to admit that MMA isnt just a bunch of toughmen bums with pillow fists and no chins throwing haymakers at each other. Reality is the better MMA boxers would likely be solid pro boxers, but they probably wouldnt be good enough to make the truly big money. Theres plenty of evidence to suggest this.

When it comes to HW, yes boxing has a bigger talent pool but lets be honest both are paper thin. Once you get out of the top 20 or so in boxing honestly the quality becomes much of a muchness with UFC level HW strikers, and Ngannou isnt any ordinary MMA striker.

[Szef]

Can you explain this..

How come Takam (and Rivas) cant stop a 40 year old Fabio Maldonado when Stipe did it to a prime version in 35 seconds? I mean we are in agreement that Takam and Rivas are decent right? Rivas is currently top 10 ranked and stopped Jennings a month after that fight.


Could you also explain why Jarrell Miller is not only failing to KO 40 year old Cro Cop (who left the UFC a couple of years earlier off the back of 3 straight KO losses) but actually lost...twice. And then went on to be undefeated in boxing, entered the top 10 and was initially scheduled to be AJs opponent in 2019 before he was busted for PEDs?

For reference...this is what some MMA fighters have done to him before an undefeated top 10 ranked boxer and title contender to AJ failed to KO him in a pure striking match...


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I thought you said basically all boxers have Ngannou-esque power or better, even in gloves?

sure

maldonado, whoever he is, is an exception, not the rule

lol at you bringing that guy up and thinking you 'got me'

give takam or rivas those small mma gloves and put them in the cage vs that guy, and make sure that guy doesn't know of their background and see what happens

idk wtf you even bringing up cro cop

you are doing mental gymnastics and using some ret@rded triangle theories to prove your point

99.9% of boxing champs took up boxing at a very young age, it took them years to master their craft and polish their punching technique

ngannonu might be bigger than joshua and wilder, he might even be stronger but the punches they throw are more devastating than his because they are precise, accurate and well timed

fcking lol at thinking he could hang with top boxers

McGregor was supposed to be the best striker in the ufc before he fought floyd. the pinching power he displayed in the actual fight was laughable. they were literally pitty pats

what about anderson silva, isn't he one of the greatest ufc strikers and one of the greatest ufc fighters overall? remind me what was his boxing record?

see i have traingle theories too.