Comments Thread For: Francis Ngannou Would Love To Box Tyson Fury: Absolutely, I'm Open To That!

[Dakuwaqa]

Can you explain this..

How come Takam (and Rivas) cant stop a 40 year old Fabio Maldonado when Stipe did it to a prime version in 35 seconds? I mean we are in agreement that Takam and Rivas are decent right? Rivas is currently top 10 ranked and stopped Jennings a month after that fight.


Could you also explain why Jarrell Miller is not only failing to KO 40 year old Cro Cop (who left the UFC a couple of years earlier off the back of 3 straight KO losses) but actually lost...twice. And then went on to be undefeated in boxing, entered the top 10 and was initially scheduled to be AJs opponent in 2019 before he was busted for PEDs?

For reference...this is what some MMA fighters have done to him before an undefeated top 10 ranked boxer and title contender to AJ failed to KO him in a pure striking match...

You don’t know **** about boxing son. 2 of the videos your homey was KOed by a kick/knee. As if that relates to boxing you microwaved jacket potato.

MMA fighters have to be concerned about takedowns and kicks/elbows and knees. Defence is very different.

Ngannou throws punches from knees that travel via the convenience store and your mommas house before getting anywhere near his glass jawed opponents face.

That ain’t working in boxing. Not when you have lungs the size of an Africanised honeybee.

[TMLT87]

maldonado, whoever he is, is an exception, not the rule

Ok, what about Lucas Browne who was an unremarkable 6-2 in MMA (two KO losses) and then focused on boxing and entered the top 10? does he hit as hard as Ngannou too? why didnt he get killed in boxing?

What about Artem Lobov who was 13-15 in MMA beating Paulie in a straight up bare knuckle boxing match?

What about Clay Collard (1-3 in the UFC, badly outboxed by Holloway) going to Top Rank and getting hyped up as the dude that derails prospects?

Jarrell Miller we've already talked about. Oddly enough his Ngannou-esque power was absent against Cro Cop.

What about Ustinov who was a mediocre kickboxer and went 1-2 in MMA?

Botha going 4-12 in kickboxing including getting KO'd with punches in the first round a few years after he faced Wlad, by D level MMA fighter Mighty Mo.

Helenius being given a gift hometown decision as an amateur vs Kharitanov.


How many exceptions to the rule do there need to be exactly? btw that old C level **** Maldonado went 25-0 in boxing which just illustrates my point. Everyone gets a ridiculously padded record.

99.9% of boxing champs took up boxing at a very young age, it took them years to master their craft and polish their punching technique

Agreed, problem is we are talking specifically about Ngannou vs HWs here. Both AJ and Wilder took up boxing as adults. Whyte was a kickboxer and MMA fighter before switching to boxing.

fcking lol at thinking he could hang with top boxers

Well, what I actually said was he would have a good shot at guys like Molina, which he would, but wouldnt win a single round vs someone like Fury, which he wouldnt.

McGregor was supposed to be the best striker in the ufc before he fought floyd. the pinching power he displayed in the actual fight was laughable. they were literally pitty pats

The bigger embarrassment there was him lasting 10 rounds and winning a few of them.

give takam or rivas those small mma gloves and put them in the cage vs that guy

Hold on, you just said boxers hit as hard as Ngannou even with boxing gloves on, are you retracting that statement now?

what about anderson silva, isn't he one of the greatest ufc strikers and one of the greatest ufc fighters overall? remind me what was his boxing record?

see i have traingle theories too

Cong****, Pretty good one.

[TMLT87]

You don’t know **** about boxing son. 2 of the videos your homey was KOed by a kick/knee. As if that relates to boxing you microwaved jacket potato.

MMA fighters have to be concerned about takedowns and kicks/elbows and knees. Defence is very different.

Ngannou throws punches from knees that travel via the convenience store and your mommas house before getting anywhere near his glass jawed opponents face.

That ain’t working in boxing. Not when you have lungs the size of an Africanised honeybee.

You're missing the point son. Other guy just said boxers, as the norm, hit as hard as Ngannou or harder even while wearing boxing gloves. There you see examples of multiple top 10 ranked HW boxers failing to KO old washed up MMA fighters who have already been KO'd repeatedly in MMA by guys who dont hit anywhere near as hard as Ngannou.

[Dakuwaqa]

You're missing the point son. Other guy just said boxers, as the norm, hit as hard as Ngannou or harder even while wearing boxing gloves. There you see examples of multiple top 10 ranked HW boxers failing to KO old washed up MMA fighters who have already been KO'd repeatedly in MMA by guys who dont hit anywhere near as hard as Ngannou.

Two of the KOs that you showed weren’t from fists. MMA defence is different and you having to think about so many things. Plus smaller gloves = getting tagged with big shots. Look at Khabib vs Conner.

Ngannou obviously ****s but those haymakers that he KOed Rozenstruik ain’t working against anyone decent. He telegraphs and isn’t particularly quick. Put on 10oz gloves on and he’ll be even slower.

[Szef]

Ok, what about Lucas Browne who was an unremarkable 6-2 in MMA (two KO losses) and then focused on boxing and entered the top 10? does he hit as hard as Ngannou too? why didnt he get killed in boxing?

What about Artem Lobov who was 13-15 in MMA beating Paulie in a straight up bare knuckle boxing match?

What about Clay Collard (1-3 in the UFC, badly outboxed by Holloway) going to Top Rank and getting hyped up as the dude that derails prospects?

Jarrell Miller we've already talked about. Oddly enough his Ngannou-esque power was absent against Cro Cop.

What about Ustinov who was a mediocre kickboxer and went 1-2 in MMA?

Botha going 4-12 in kickboxing including getting KO'd with punches in the first round a few years after he faced Wlad, by D level MMA fighter Mighty Mo.

Helenius being given a gift hometown decision as an amateur vs Kharitanov.


How many exceptions to the rule do there need to be exactly? btw that old C level **** Maldonado went 25-0 in boxing which just illustrates my point. Everyone gets a ridiculously padded record.



Agreed, problem is we are talking specifically about Ngannou vs HWs here. Both AJ and Wilder took up boxing as adults. Whyte was a kickboxer and MMA fighter before switching to boxing.



Well, what I actually said was he would have a good shot at guys like Molina, which he would, but wouldnt win a single round vs someone like Fury, which he wouldnt.




The bigger embarrassment there was him lasting 10 rounds and winning a few of them.



Hold on, you just said boxers hit as hard as Ngannou even with boxing gloves on, are you retracting that statement now?



Cong****, Pretty good one.

this is getting boring

do you have any point here or are you just gonna keep bringing up random guys to prove whatever it is that you're trying to prove here?

if he chose boxing instead of mma maybe he could beat a molina. maybe he would be another wilder but that's very unlikely given his stamina. if he went to boxing now then he would have no chance of winning whatsoever

mcgregor won rounds vs floyd lol...

stick to your triangle theories and keep thinking you know anything about fighting

bye felicia

[Marchegiano]

He's not being disrespectful about it so I don't see any reason to be disrespectful to him. Best of luck to the dude.

[Boxfan83]

I dont care what people say, Tyson dont need to be fighting anyone under 45 that is an active fighter.

[BoloShot]

Whyte and Browne were MMA fighters who jumped over to boxing. Jarrell Miller was a kickboxer who lost twice to middle aged kickboxer/MMA fighter Cro Cop.

Whyte wasn't an MMA fighter. He had one fight ever that he won by one punch KO. Kickboxers have a skillset that translates well. MMA fighters don't, especially ones that lack technique so badly like Ngannou.

[BoloShot]

Can you explain this..

How come Takam (and Rivas) cant stop a 40 year old Fabio Maldonado when Stipe did it to a prime version in 35 seconds? I mean we are in agreement that Takam and Rivas are decent right? Rivas is currently top 10 ranked and stopped Jennings a month after that fight.


Could you also explain why Jarrell Miller is not only failing to KO 40 year old Cro Cop (who left the UFC a couple of years earlier off the back of 3 straight KO losses) but actually lost...twice. And then went on to be undefeated in boxing, entered the top 10 and was initially scheduled to be AJs opponent in 2019 before he was busted for PEDs?

For reference...this is what some MMA fighters have done to him before an undefeated top 10 ranked boxer and title contender to AJ failed to KO him in a pure striking match...


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I thought you said basically all boxers have Ngannou-esque power or better, even in gloves?

No, a half decent boxer in MMA is considered an elite striker, not the other way around. An elite striker in MMA is often ****e at boxing and gets smoked by any competent fighter. MMA guys who had a solid kickboxing background may make the transition, but anyone who hasn't been a kickboxer for a significant amount of time will get exposed in the ring.

[TMLT87]

if he chose boxing instead of mma maybe he could beat a molina. maybe he would be another wilder but that's very unlikely given his stamina. if he went to boxing now then he would have no chance of winning whatsoever

No chance of winning against who? once again, he could easily be fed a bunch of bums to build up a big undefeated record. You are being too defensive and making it sound like HW boxing is so elite that its literally impossible for someone from another sport that features boxing to transfer their skillset and find moderate success. Even though its already happened multiple times with guys that have nowhere near the credentials of Ngannou.

mcgregor won rounds vs floyd lol...

He outlanded him in the first 3 rounds, 4th was equal.