Mayweather’s Hit List Includes Pacquiao, Mosley, Cotto

[Hype job]

Some people do recover from KO's like that. Many don't.

Either way Manny was still universally P4P #2, lowest #3. Can't be too bad if that's the case.

Obviously he was past his best. As is Floyd.

P4P is subjective doe.

And who recovers from a KO like that? That's one of the worst KO's in boxing history.

Floyd is past his best yes, but he has a style with the height and reach that ages better than Manny's, plus he's been in less overall fights, and much fewer wars.

Floyd is a great fighter but I don't believe it's a coincidence that most of the ATG's/HOFers he fought were past prime.

[VERSION1 (V1)]

P4P is subjective doe.

And who recovers from a KO like that? That's one of the worst KO's in boxing history.Floyd is past his best yes, but he has a style with the height and reach that ages better than Manny's, plus he's been in less overall fights, and much fewer wars.

Floyd is a great fighter but I don't believe it's a coincidence that most of the ATG's/HOFers he fought were past prime.

IMO not in the top 20 worst ko in boxing history

[The Big Dunn]

P4P is subjective doe.

And who recovers from a KO like that? That's one of the worst KO's in boxing history.

Floyd is past his best yes, but he has a style with the height and reach that ages better than Manny's, plus he's been in less overall fights, and much fewer wars.

Floyd is a great fighter but I don't believe it's a coincidence that most of the ATG's/HOFers he fought were past prime.

Its not a coincidence-they all waited until after they had earned top dollars for a few years to entertain a fight with Floyd.

WHy?

Because it's difficult to beat Floyd and you usually don't look good whe3n losing to him.

Rugged, exciting fighters-gatti, hatton, corrales-get KTFO, superstars-ODH, Canelo, Shane , Manny-have there punch output lowered and are made to look ineffective at best, amateurish at worst.

The man is just better than all his contemporaries. Why does it bother you?

I hate SRL but I don't act like he wasn't the best of his era or since Ali.

[Hype job]

Its not a coincidence-they all waited until after they had earned top dollars for a few years to entertain a fight with Floyd.

WHy?

Because it's difficult to beat Floyd and you usually don't look good whe3n losing to him.

Rugged, exciting fighters-gatti, hatton, corrales-get KTFO, superstars-ODH, Canelo, Shane , Manny-have there punch output lowered and are made to look ineffective at best, amateurish at worst.

The man is just better than all his contemporaries. Why does it bother you?

I hate SRL but I don't act like he wasn't the best of his era or since Ali.

Pac's transition to tentative boxer puncher post Marquez KO played right into Floyd's hands.

I've seen multiple posts about how many ardent Floyd fanatics (Doctor Tenma) //krikya360.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=479780 saw Pac declining and got all excited knowing the time was right. DeadLikeMe was talking about how super tentative he was.

You don't recover from a KO like that so it does tarnish the win. If Floyd beat Pac in 2010 I would wholeheartedly admit he's the best.

[El Jesus]

Floyd has proved he is an all time great and a solid fighter of this generation. The problem is that his legacy isnt as good as HE think it is. thus the expectations are higher, all of us set the bar higher for someone who makes the boistrous claims he makes. If floyd hadnt proven that his talent was one of the best of this generation, hed be on the level of a panchito bojado who was a great prospect but never took his talent to a level to where we knew it was legit. We KNOW floyd is legit and he has proven it, otherwise, youd have to basis to say that.


the thing is for me, if floyd doesnt fight certain people, my interest in the sport is still there, life goes on, but for some of you, who claim you dont pay attention to him, you dont watch him, you dont respect him, there is obviously a need to see floyd reach his full potential, because if you didint, i wouldnt see you in damn near every major floyd thread that there is. You do care.

i never thought hed get through all these guys like this, alot of what i said here 6 years ago holds true today, these guys are obsessed, clearly obsessed, but to see him go through everyone, its amazing.

i thought if floyd didint fight some of these guys id be dissapointed, but man, he fought them all, im truely amazed he didint lose to anyone, honestly

[El Jesus]

Pac's transition to tentative boxer puncher post Marquez KO played right into Floyd's hands.

I've seen multiple posts about how many ardent Floyd fanatics (Doctor Tenma) //krikya360.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=479780 saw Pac declining and got all excited knowing the time was right. DeadLikeMe was talking about how super tentative he was.

You don't recover from a KO like that so it does tarnish the win. If Floyd beat Pac in 2010 I would wholeheartedly admit he's the best.

People like you always give themselves an out. Look at this thread, you see any of the haters from back then (who have alts these days) giving him credit now? Nothing will ever change your mind about floyd. Stop pretending to have some sort of objective intelligent opinion. For years you have been the idiot you are today and that isnt going to change. I think you and people like spoon and hectari are genuinely ****** individuals.

[IronDanHamza]

P4P is subjective doe.

And who recovers from a KO like that? That's one of the worst KO's in boxing history.

Floyd is past his best yes, but he has a style with the height and reach that ages better than Manny's, plus he's been in less overall fights, and much fewer wars.

Floyd is a great fighter but I don't believe it's a coincidence that most of the ATG's/HOFers he fought were past prime.

Plenty have.

Harold Johnson was brutally knocked out cold by Oakland Billy Smith and he recovered to win the title and have some great performances.

Robinson's iconic KO of Fullmer, he recovered and had some great performances.

Hearn's KO of Duran.

List goes on. Some recover, many don't.

Style doesn't necessarily mean anything. Look at Benitez, defensive wizard finished before the age of 30. The punishment avoiding style didn't help him. Same with Whitaker.

Floyd's well passed it. Like any 20 year pro would be.

As for P4P, I don't care if it's subjective, objective an adjective or the plot twist on True Detective, if you're universially Top 3 P4P across the board you ain't that bad.

[DuttyAlacrity]

Just for the record, JMM was #2 P4P when Mayweather fought him, Mosley was #3 P4P, and Pacquiao was #2/3 P4P. Plus, Cotto went on to win the lineal MW championship.

Now you can go back to downgrading Mayweather's wins to Calzaghe-RJJ level.

Very nice. Someone oughta cross reference the fighters mayweather fought while they were currently ranked on the p4p top 10. Canelo was #10 so was Guerrero (that was kinda bs tho). Hatton was currently ranked, Castillo, Chico also. We may be hard pressed to find another fighter that has fought as many currently ranked p4p fighters AND undefeated.

[IronDanHamza]

Very nice. Someone oughta cross reference the fighters mayweather fought while they were currently ranked on the p4p top 10. Canelo was #10 so was Guerrero (that was kinda bs tho). Hatton was currently ranked, Castillo, Chico also. We may be hard pressed to find another fighter that has fought as many currently ranked p4p fighters AND undefeated.

The Ring

130;

Hernandez #1
Corrales #1
Manfredy #5
Chavez #3

135;

Castillo #1
Castillo 2 #1

140;

Gatti #1

147

Judah #3
Baldomir #1
Mosley #1
Hatton (unsure)
Ortiz #2
Guererro #2
Maidana 2 #5
Pacquaio #1

154

De La Hoya #5
Cotto #1
Canelo #1

P4P

Corrales #5
Hatton #8
Marquez #2
Mosley #3
Guererro #10
Canelo #10
Pacquaio #2

[DuttyAlacrity]

The Ring

130;

Hernandez #1
Corrales #1
Manfredy #5
Chavez #3

135;

Castillo #1
Castillo 2 #1

140;

Gatti #1

147

Judah #3
Baldomir #1
Mosley #1
Hatton (unsure)
Ortiz #2
Guererro #2
Maidana 2 #5
Pacquaio #1

154

De La Hoya #5
Cotto #1
Canelo #1

P4P

Corrales #5
Hatton #8
Marquez #2
Mosley #3
Guererro #10
Canelo #10
Pacquaio #2

Couldn't give any more green k. Good looking out. This post is also ether. Footnote: Hatton was 140 lineal champ at the time of the Floyd fight too.