Floyd Mayweather Jr Told Me "No" - Says Shane Mosley

[Xcusemymood]

People just want to see him fight the best, is that so hard? If Mosley is the #1 WW right now and is still around after December, why SHOULDN'T they fight? because Mosley said no 3-4 years ago? Who cares? This is now. In history there have been many match-ups that took years to make whether it was one guy duckin or another guy being in another division, etc. But how dumb is it to turn down a fight with someone of the likes of Mosley who's still very active and coming off one of the biggest wins of his career? I just don't see the logic on hanging a 4 year old "He ducked me then" excuse when a fight with either Mosley or even Cotto are bankable fights. We're fans 1st of the sport and this is without a doubt a fight many people want to see.

Business is Business, but if Floyd is "trying" to make another run and not just wait for Pacquiao (assuming he beats Pacquiao), what other fights do you presume he'd take after beating Pacquiao? Edwin Valero?

Pretty much everything you said makes sense. I too would love to see PBF vs Mosley but you cannot put all the blame on PBF. If he tried to make the fight before and Mosley didnt for whatever reason he has every right to say he doesnt want it now, for whatever reason.

I liken it to this situation....

Its like trying to get with the prom queen and she wont have anything to do with you. Then you both go off to college...She gets ****** out by all kinds of dudes and comes back during summer break looking all fat with a beer gut......in the meantime you have been hooking up with all kinds of hot little 18 year old Freshamn from all over the counrty who came to your school......So she holds no interest for you over Summer and she doesnt understand why....You both go back to school. Only this time she goes on a diet and starts working out thinking when she comes back next summer she'll be able to draw you into hooking up with her. So next Summer comes around and even though she looks better you still dont need it because now you have an even longer line up of younger better looking Freshman chicks wanting to get some.

[JAB5239]

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People just want to see him fight the best, is that so hard? If Mosley is the #1 WW right now and is still around after December, why SHOULDN'T they fight? because Mosley said no 3-4 years ago? Who cares? This is now. In history there have been many match-ups that took years to make whether it was one guy duckin or another guy being in another division, etc. But how dumb is it to turn down a fight with someone of the likes of Mosley who's still very active and coming off one of the biggest wins of his career? I just don't see the logic on hanging a 4 year old "He ducked me then" excuse when a fight with either Mosley or even Cotto are bankable fights. We're fans 1st of the sport and this is without a doubt a fight many people want to see.

Well said!!

[Dave Rado]

Pretty much everything you said makes sense. I too would love to see PBF vs Mosley but you cannot put all the blame on PBF. If he tried to make the fight before and Mosley didnt for whatever reason he has every right to say he doesnt want it now, for whatever reason.

I liken it to this situation....

Its like trying to get with the prom queen and she wont have anything to do with you. Then you both go off to college...She gets ****** out by all kinds of dudes and comes back during summer break looking all fat with a beer gut......in the meantime you have been hooking up with all kinds of hot little 18 year old Freshamn from all over the counrty who came to your school......So she holds no interest for you over Summer and she doesnt understand why....You both go back to school. Only this time she goes on a diet and starts working out thinking when she comes back next summer she'll be able to draw you into hooking up with her. So next Summer comes around and even though she looks better you still dont need it because now you have an even longer line up of younger better looking Freshman chicks wanting to get some.

This isn't a romance it's a sport.

[Maestro USA]

Mosley has unfinished business with Cotto. He needs to rematch him first and beat him second. Then he beg for a fight with the p4p king, Floyd Jr., and agree to a 70/30 purse split.

Golden Boy Promotions needs a reality check.

[Xcusemymood]

This isn't a romance it's a sport.

quote "I liken it to this situation"

[Dave Rado]

quote "I liken it to this situation"

Yes but it's a bad analogy.

Sportsmen don't refuse to compete against each other because their feelings were hurt.

[Xcusemymood]

Yes but it's a bad analogy.

Sportsmen don't refuse to compete against each other because their feelings were hurt.

I diagree for a couple reasons.

The first being that the analogy used has nothing to do with feelings hurt. It has to do with the guy having options....

Also, we know boxing is a business 1st and a sport 2nd. Businessmen make business decisions based on what is going to earn them the most money. You can ***** about it all you want but your not gonna be heard.

As I said before I would like to see Floyd fight Mosley more than anyone else but clearly he is not going to make as much as he would fighting the winner of Pac/Hatton. I WISH just as you do that fights could be made just based on what fans want, but clearly they are not.

[GRUSTLER]

LOL! First of all I like Mayweather the fighter, and would say the same about any other fighter in the same situation. I think he thoroughly deserved the #1 P4P ranking he had before he retired. I have no emotional attachment at all. Whereas you clearly do have an emotional attachment.

Second, boxing will cease to be a successful business once it loses credibility as a sport. It is boxing the sport that makes boxing the business viable.

In fact, that is a major reason why it isn't mainstream like it used to be, because (until the last year or so) the best weren't fighting the best often enough.

If Marg had kept winning (and hadn't been caught cheating) he'd have fought Williams again eventually. It was understandable that he didn't want to fight him as a tune-up for the Cotto rematch that was supposed to be happening in June. But he'd have fought him eventually.

The only reasons a lot of people give Mosley a pass for avoiding Williams are because of his age, and the fact that he's fought so many high risk opponents in the past, including in his last fight.

Moving up two divisions to challenge De La Hoya, who was ranked #1 P4P when Mosley first moved up, rather than fight Mayweather, cannot be compared with wanting to fight boxers from a lower weight class in preference to the top fighters in your own division, especially when you have won a lineal title in that division, claimed to be the best in that division, and yet have never defended against a single top contender. Especially as the top 4 Welterweights now are all a lot better than either Judah or Boldomir were. And especially when he is claiming to be one of the top 10 or so P4P fighters of all time.

Dave, I know you are a smart guy and post with thought but
I have to go with Horus & Joseph on this one topic. I can see
where they are coming from because what Floyd was/is doing,
is exactly what a lot of fighters/boxers are trying to do and that
is to make big $ fights but Floyd gets the bad press for it but he
is the dominate one business wise coming in second to Oscar
De La Hoya. Whatever Floyd does it's never going to be good
enough or please everyone and he has tried in the past & that's
why he fell back and just does him now.

I know the guy is a great fighter and is pretty confident that he
can whip all them guys. If he chooses to come back and fight
them I would be more than happy but if he doesn't, it won't take
away how great he is in my book because I recognize his talent
& achievements. I think the biggest beef a lot of fans have with
Floyd is that he is undefeated and people want him to lose but
he hasn't. Every time he has fought someone or was about to
fight I always hear that the guy is going to whip Floyd but when
he wins then the excuses come in and that's not fair.

I remember before the Baldomir fight all the Welter Weights weren't
even sure if Floyd could beat the bigger Baldomir and once he did
with ease people said Baldomir was a bum but fact of the matter is
that people were either 50/50 or gave him no chance and that's documented.
Bottom line, people call Floyd fans nut huggers but the non Floyd
fans are irrational and over react sometimes. That's just my opinion.

[FLY TY]

Yes but it's a bad analogy.

Sportsmen don't refuse to compete against each other because their feelings were hurt.

boxers can dave, when they have more options....

[Dave Rado]

boxers can dave, when they have more options....

The ones who want to be thought of as greats don't.

De La Hoya kept clear of Vargas for a while because Vargas hurt his feelings, but in the end he fought him and took it out on him in the ring. Great champions fight the best available competition.

And claiming to be the best Welterweight in the world without ever defending against a single Welterweight contender just makes him look like an empty braggart to anyone who isn't a committed fan.